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They were on notice the day they lost their jobs! They don't need further notice, IMO. What do we do, let them malinger until we notify them to get out and really LOOK?

Many of these people have no idea how to find a job, many are long or life time employees who's jobs have been eliminated or out sourced over seas, they don't need kicked in the face they need a hand, some more than others.

I know of no one that asked to be in their situation, and if you are not then be happy things have worked out well for you.

Had a lousy employe we fired. Little over a year goes by and this person shows back up. Turns out this person wanted to be in the fashion industry, and had arranged to be fired in order to move to a fashion center in another state to start a job search while receiving Arizona unemployment benefits. Never found a job, which is not a surprise given the work ethic displayed.

Everyone pays into ue insurance, but so do the employers. I'm uncertain if we have had to pay increases as a result of the continuances, but would not object if they would simply shut down the fraud. It hurts to hear about about people getting years of unemployment fraudulently. The scams involving disability insurance coming to light is particularly disheartening.

No one is forcing them to take this loan if paying back what you borrow is a penalty I guess we know where your political affiliation is. People would be looking a little harder for a job. Now a lot of them just sit around on their ass and get what they think they have coming to them.



It isn't going to turn around as long as obarry and his ilk are in charge.

Many of the people responding to this thread do not recognize the difference between a helping hand for those who have lost their job, while they find a new one, and long term financial support for those who cannot find a job or will not take a job, and the latter is called WELFARE. Period.
The money paid out to people who are legitimately, temporary unemployed is THEIR money, part of THEIR payroll deduction and THEIR former employers taxes. Once they go on a federal extension, it�s our money, yours, mine everybody�s.
At that point, it transitions from unemployment to welfare.
They still call it unemployment to make people feel better, but maybe the stigma of �welfare� will motivate some people to find another way to support themselves.
Don�t get me wrong, I sympathize with the long term unemployed, and people on welfare who really WANT a job, but the fact is, there are millions (not thousands but millions) on long term unemployment, federal extensions and welfare because they don�t want to work, they like living on the dole.
My opinion is welfare and long term unemployment should be a minimal existence. No smart phones, no trips to Disneyland. Food, shelter and not much more. I believe a slow transition would be compassionate, but if your going to live off of my tax dollars, I don�t think it�s right that you should live better than me.

I think this idea needs some examination.
Not first claim unemployment, but starting with the second federal extension, and all welfare in it's many forms.
Don't cut it off at three years, just slowly reduce it to bare existence living.
This could provide a great incentive for those needing help and a great relief to the federal burden of paying out my/our tax dollars to those who need help no matter what the reason.

Gee that has a little socialist Kaliforniacopia union ring to it.

Some thing some of you don't quite have a handle on is the fact the jobs these people need do not exist any longer.

Some of say , move, to where? with what? Just how do you sell your home when the economy in that area is dead? Who wants it?

Who takes care of your elderly parents? The state? The church? Or maybe their elderly neighbors?

Some of you would rather bitch and whine about others than to be thankful for what you have.

Some people are actually not capable of supporting themselves. I don�t want to see them starve to death, I just want them to eat mac & cheese without the cheese. Call me a commie.

Why is selling your house, or taking care of your parents any of OUR problem?

Here's are reality check. LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

There are loads of truck driving jobs available paying pretty damn god money. Most of us don't get to do what we want to do - some folks are just hungrier than others. Most of the unemployed will now suddenly find some type of work.

"Some thing some of you don't quite have a handle on is the fact the jobs these people need do not exist any longer." sez jimy.


Well, so effing what? I lost a job that went away forever. I went and took another job(1/3 less pay, but better benefits).

Schitt happens to us all. I took unemployment for six months, could have gotten extensions, too, but did NOT do so. I couldn't stand sitting on my posterior at home. I went out and took something, anydamnthing, to get back to work.
I'm working crappy, long, nighttime hours, when I'm a morning guy. SO WHAT! At least I'm being a productive member of society now, as opposed to being a leech. I was making a good deal MORE MONEY on unemployment than I am now, but at least I have some dignity and pride in what I do, and myself. Self-respect is worth more to me than some extra money in my pocket, too.

TOO damned many of these folks have no self-respect left. I don't give a damn about self-esteem, I'm talking about respecting oneself as a productive member of humanity. A lot of these folks are just leeches, period.

You're dam right about that! I could be unemployed tomorrow and behind the wheel the next. I know it's not an easy life but it's a dam sight better that sitting on my ass hoping checks keep falling from the sky! Once you have a CDL you will not be without a job unless you want to be.

Then they need to find new jobs.


Someplace with jobs and a lower cost of living.

At a loss !
Tell me, if you sold your house at a huge profit, did you plan on sharing that profit with me ?.....I didn't think so

Social Security, 401Ks, savings.

If need be, but only as a last resort.

The ads I see for truck driving
all say two years experience minimum.
How do you get the first job?

The bigger companies have their own trainers and you work for them for a time to pay off your schooling then go wherever you want. Smaller companies will often give you a tuition reimbursement or pay for your training in advance.

I started at a company that trained me then I could go anywhere after the first year working for them..

North Dakota is grossly under-employed. We need workers, and have needed them for years now.

The work is hard, the pay is good, the living is cold but fine. No experience required.

Why you just head on down to "Microsoft", into the office, up to the front desk and tell em;
"I'm here to apply for the job of C.E.O. !
Say it with confidence, you should be making millions in no time.

Anaconda, California is damn lucky to have such clear, concise and open minded thinkers like you.

Governor Brown is in good company.

no one is saying there should not be any safety net, or short term unemployment benefits. Heck most workers pay in advance for that with their State taxes.
The beef is that the benefits now, never end. It's a political football at this point.