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My buddy's daughter says she can't find a "fun job". I've had good jobs and I've had bad jobs, but I've never has a fun job. Hard work, even in something that you enjoy (e.g., R&D, business development, etc.) is satisfying, but not fun. I guess your buddy's daughter want a party every day.
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the reason "both party's" did not extend the benefits is cause..... "they want to see if """them on it"""" head out a discover a job" the job of the demoncates is the whine and the repub's job is to catch some crap about it .....ARE/U AND ME -are jobs as "peasants" is vote for one party or the other ....while being screwed by both...no matter which way it goes.
I work harder than a ugly stripper....
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One thing, some of the same folks complaining about loss of "good jobs" due to outsourcing were/are many of the same people quick to buy a product made overseas because they want it cheap. Bite the hand that feeds you.
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Perhaps the democrats have stumbled onto the very real possiblilty that not extending the benefits will decrease unemployment. Going into the election I sure they would like to see that.
Life can be rough on us dreamers.
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My buddy's daughter says she can't find a "fun job". Post a picture of her, and I will try and find her something fun to do.
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One question: exactly how long should "unemployment" continue for? Are you arguing that it should go forever? If not, please give us a length of time. I don't know, maybe till the economic climate improves, jobs are more readily available, no one has an answer but I will tell you this. There is more shame in kicking a good man while he is down than reaching out and helping him to his feet.We are not talking about life time welfare recipients here, we are talking good people in a bad spot, they have paid taxes and with a hand will again pay taxes, that's a good thing. Sorry, then we simply disagree. Open-ended unemployment benefits are something I don't want to see started. I'm only in my 40's, but I sure don't recall seeing many (any) entitlement programs cut, let alone abolished.
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Perhaps we can eliminate poverty and unemployment (in one fell swoop) just by letting the unwashed, poor and, unemployed starve to death. That way, universal prosperity is just around the corner. Who's going to pay for the funerals? The taxpayer I suppose? You'll be paying that expense either way.
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This is just a troll fest
These benefits are not ment to be a welfare program
The will end at some point.
Snake Yep put them on welfare and make it less.
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I really do feel many of you just don't understand the economics and the benefits of this program.
The total cost is not or can not be figured on a zero sum basis, this money benefits many as it spent and re spent in your community, as an example the local grocer, the gas station and any other of the hundreds of places we all spend money.
Some one mentioned letting them loose their home, brilliant idea, then the rest of you make up the property tax revenue and the crack heads have a place to crash, inturn costing the rest of you more cash in the form of added police protection and medical costs.
These are good people that can with some help once again contribute to the betterment of the community or can become a life time burden on all involved.
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What part of the constitution says that folks get housing, cars, food, and phones from the other taxpayers? 90 days of unemployment max. Have an emergency cash fund and stop whining. You are starting to sound like Nancy Pelosi, another great economist.
Not a life time burden on me, be productive or starve. Not my problem. Get serious about getting the .gov out of private business and get the job engine going again if you are serious about helping people.
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By the way, all the folks who had full time jobs and were squeaking by and who have now had their hours cut to 29 due to soetorocare, how do you feel about them? Think they got screwed by the democrat socialist party or was that those greedy capitalists?
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Stop taxing me after 90 days max.
Great Idea huh?
I have been self employed for the last 27 years, I've payed a chit pile of unemployment taxes that I can not collect a cent of.
That's just not how America works, we help those whom need a hand.
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I too am self employed. I too will never collect a cent. I have my emergency cash fund and am debt free.
Allow people to opt in or out of unemployment insurance. Cap the payouts at 90 days. It reminds me of social security abuse that is now rampant. Can't believe you can't see the widespread fraud and the negative impacts it is having on this country.
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I really do feel many of you just don't understand the economics and the benefits of this program.
The total cost is not or can not be figured on a zero sum basis, this money benefits many as it spent and re spent in your community, as an example the local grocer, the gas station and any other of the hundreds of places we all spend money.
Some one mentioned letting them loose their home, brilliant idea, then the rest of you make up the property tax revenue and the crack heads have a place to crash, inturn costing the rest of you more cash in the form of added police protection and medical costs.
These are good people that can with some help once again contribute to the betterment of the community or can become a life time burden on all involved. So what do you you do when unemployment benefits received surpass moneys paid in to the unemployment compensation funds? Raise the percentage paid in by the the ones who are working to cover their extended stay?
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I really do feel many of you just don't understand the economics and the benefits of this program.
The total cost is not or can not be figured on a zero sum basis, this money benefits many as it spent and re spent in your community, as an example the local grocer, the gas station and any other of the hundreds of places we all spend money.
Some one mentioned letting them loose their home, brilliant idea, then the rest of you make up the property tax revenue and the crack heads have a place to crash, inturn costing the rest of you more cash in the form of added police protection and medical costs.
These are good people that can with some help once again contribute to the betterment of the community or can become a life time burden on all involved. Propping up bubbles is why we're at where we're at. Something is going to give eventually, and when we keep putting it off, it makes the inevitable more painful. I've had some friends laid-off long-term. A few had to move, but all got jobs within 2 years.
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I am a realist, our government no matter whos in charge is going to spend huge unsustainable amounts of money.
As long as they are going to continue spending wildly, the only retort we have is spend the money here at home on good people that benefits our locality.
We have a need and we have the resources so in my book I say bring it home, I have no need for any more cruse missiles.
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Last edited by jimy; 12/30/13.
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"Have the resources" ??? Last I knew we had over $17 trillion in debt, not counting unfunded public pensions. Your definition of the "have the resources" is one I would love to hear.
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He means, like all socialists, that .gov can just print more money.
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We have a spare Billion we give to Egypt each and every year, are you "non socialist" sniveling about those "resources"?
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