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What were they selling the SS m7's on clearance? $499?
Shoulda bought a pallet of them.
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I don't need 1200 yd reach, but the Shamu is a hot one.
I Like low recoil, blast, good bbl and brass life, and all the nuance you get with a modest 6.5, for me most of what I do can easily be handled by a 47, Creedmoor, or 260.
If I NEEDED LR reach, the SAUM is a good one, as is a 7RM or WSM with proper bullets, albeit more recoil. No free lunch for performance, and it is not linear with powder/brass/barrel consumption. You pay to play.
Wonder how a 270 Win, WSM, or the 7 Mags do with the new Noz LRAB, as they are made to work in OEM twist. Just a thought, but I would assume very well, perhaps a few extra turret clicks.
If money were no object, I would happily run larger 6.5s, and have a few spare pre-chambered bbls ready to replace the last one I burned out. Same as the larger 6s.
Like running a fast sports car or hot rod. Question, how fast do you want to go? Answer...how much money can you spend...
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What were they selling the SS m7's on clearance? $499?
Shoulda bought a pallet of them. My M7 7 Saum, in a McM Classic Edge is something to behold.. (grin) It comes in at 7.5 with a 6x42 and shoots real nice off a pack. 162s at 2930 and I've got some 150 etip blems coming for unleaded needs. We'll see if they shoot.
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Like the contour on those models. Fluted like the XCR or not?
Nigh RM speeds - not bad.
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Were I to build a ShamWow Niche Rifle,it'd be a dupe of my LFB,though wearing a #2 contour instead of a #3. It'd never begin to touch a Montucky for Utility,but it'd be a fun Play Toy. I'd want a throat that kisses the 162 at 2.850" and would feed it DBM(Atlas) ala S/A 700 and 5rd AICS. The 162 at 2950fps,is a nice place to be and far from offensive to the shooter,sans brake. I hear good things about 7mm's.(grin) LFB
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Wonder how a 270 Win, WSM, or the 7 Mags do with the new Noz LRAB,
I ran some factory 7 WSM 160 AB loads at 1,000 once just for the sake of seeing what the factory ammo could do. The 10 shot group was just over 20". Handload 160 AB's could shrink that some, but not enough to mess with further. Barrel was 1:9 Bartlein. Have not tested the new version.
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Stick, what's an LFB?
Saw and 8400 300WSM at a local shop today, felt light.
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I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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Are you shooting paper or hunting big game?
It really comes down to what impact velocity you want at a certain range for the bullet to be effective on game.
Some say 2000 fps, some say 1,800 fps is needed.
243's are nice for shooting paper but I personally wouldn't use one for large mule deer or elk. It starts at 6.5 for me.
(No doubt some nimrod here will show up with a bombast opinion of how great the 243 is on bull elk at long range.) Hey are you callin me a nimrod?
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Hey are you callin me a nimrod? grin Yes, in fact I was. LOL..... Notice I said "bull elk".
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I bought 3 Remington SS 7 RSAUM's for $439. 2 are new, never fired. They had 9 of them wished I bought them all.
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Hey are you callin me a nimrod? grin Yes, in fact I was. LOL..... Notice I said "bull elk". Well as long as you acknowledge Nimrod was a hunter of note. I did crackalack a bull this year with the 6.5mm (.264 Win Mag). Range finder was reading in 4 digits. Might have passed with the .243 Win. I am waiting for Lil Fish to expound on the 162gr AMAX @ 2950fps beating the 140gr VLD at 3100fps in the wind. Should be fun as he likes to guess.
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I did crackalack a bull this year with the 6.5mm (.264 Win Mag).
Range finder was reading in 4 digits. laugh Might have passed with the .243 Win. Nice! See, I told ya it starts at 6.5. Any video? You've spoiled us.
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I did crackalack a bull this year with the 6.5mm (.264 Win Mag).
Range finder was reading in 4 digits. laugh Might have passed with the .243 Win. Nice! See, I told ya it starts at 6.5. Any video? You've spoiled us. Have video. Cammeraman missed the first shot but it worked out because I took 3 to seal the deal. Actually the first would have done it but he stayed up long enough for me to hit him thrice.
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[quote=SU35][quote] I am waiting for Lil Fish to expound on the 162gr AMAX @ 2950fps beating the 140gr VLD at 3100fps in the wind. Should be fun as he likes to guess. I watched 162/2950 vs 140/3100 in a little wind the other day.....
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
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How does the 6.5 SAUM go 300 fps faster than a 260 at significantly lower pressure with 20gr +/- more powder?
Is it the sharp shoulder angle or the long neck?
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Magic sparkle dust.
Happy now?
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I would put more faith in physics than magic, and it has nothing do with being happy.
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I know what you mean. I am a little wary myself. I see velocities quoted with the 6.5SAUM that approach/rival the .264WM. Knowing the SAUM case has a little less capacity than the Win Mag case how is it possible to reach the velocities and run lower pressures? I am currently running a .264WM and get tickled when I see 3200fps with 140s. I don't have near the experience of most here but to see Pat say that he is getting the same speed with slightly less powder and 10KPSI less than a .264WM makes me question some math somewhere. One other thing to add to the mix is that the 6.5 SAUM rounds have not been pressure tested. I wouldn't be surprised to see it's velocity drop a bit if that were to happen. How's this for a pressure test? This load drives a 139 scenar at 3150fps. The barrel has 2100 rounds through it, and still shoots sub .5". George Garder replies
"6.5x284 to get 2950 out of the 140 is running in the 68,000 PSI range
6.5 SAUM is getting 3100 with the same bullet at 55,000 PSI
There is your difference.
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