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Thanks Bob, same here, much of this may be geographical, and I know for fact it's stubborn traditional belief in my case.

Gunner

Either breaks His law, if not the law. His may carry a harsher verdict.

At least you're straight up honest with no twists and turns. I get it...even if I don't fully understand it.

What if it was your brother? Your sister?

Gunner...if it takes years to develop that bond worthy of being called friendship, how does one erase it nano-seconds after a "hey I suck dick" awkward enlightenment?

With friends I would still love them but would not support their choice and my home would be off limits. Not bringing that into my house and leaving a open door for whatever evil to come in, sorry. My friends know me and they know my beliefs so they could deal with it or move on. All my friends are like minded. Trick is don't befriend weirdos and all will be well.

My kids, I will never have to worry about that. 100% boys through and through! Both REALLY like girls. Thank god.

Homos gross me out.

Bro and Sis would be shunned, and as for turning off the switch on friends.........I'm not completely normal, it wouldn't be hard.

Gunner

If there is a true love it would be Gods love.
Many stories in the Bible tell us God may love all of mankind, but he will not necessarily accept some behavior. Sodom and Gomorrah are prime examples. Moses and the Egyptian's and many more examples are there for all to see

I have a step son that's a [bleep] . Wife won't let me kill him , but that's all the restrait I shown. She ain't real proud either, he was f'd up when the mrs and I got together too far down the tubes to pull him out , lost cause

Damn.

Gunner

Wow such vitriol

I'll leave God to do the judging

Oh I know I even thought about buying the guy a trip to Vegas or such and a couple hookers so manybe he see what he is missing, but my brither pointed out the step son would probably just want to try on the hookers clothes !! MOTHER F..............

If I were to believe in a God, I'd like to think he'd ask who the f**k I thought I was in judging others who differed from my preconceived notions.

I've had that conversation with my son.

I still love him, no conditions.

this cuts to the root of it I think. We all know how rare truly good friends are. And I believe it would say much more about me were I to turn my back. I have seen a few people struggle mightily with the weight and confusion of homosexuality before they decided to "come out". It weren't no walk in the park. Many of them have been thru hell already, Who the hell are we to judge anyway.

Quoting God's word is not judging, the word itself will judge us all. We are to love the sinner and hate the sin. Homosexuality like so many other things is a sin, according to God.

One sin is the same as the next in God's eyes.

I want to give you a definitive answer but there are too many variables. Some people in my life, it wouldn't matter but I would be disappointed personally. That's on me, not them. Others I just know we would drift apart.

I don't see a bunch of anger or negativity towards them.

That said, I'm sorry you and SH are having problems.

Okay, that's funny.

To me, love means always acting in a person's genuine best interest, as you understand it.

It does not preclude disagreement. Parents know this. Disagreement is not HATE!

It does not mean supporting or enabling all behavior.

That is real, not conditional love. It's honest.

I believe Christians are called to that kind of love, like it or not.

I hope I would be like this. I should be.

The only kind of people available to love are sinners. Can't wait for them to be perfect.

OT,

+1

Sycamore

I guess it depends on your world view. Our culture, our society, and our country is dying for lack of hearing right and wrong, absolute truth and untruth. It has been drinking the Kool aid of relative values for a half century now and the blood work is getting much worse. The patient is sick and getting sicker.

I have two adult daughters so I can role play here. As an earnestly "practicing" Christian, I read in the Bible that homosexuality is an abomination to God. It has very clear words concerning this "lifestyle". There is no equivocating concerning this subject. If I were to learn this about either of my daughters and loving them as I do, I would engage them concerning their very serious moral position. At the same time I'd be exquisitely aware of some of my own sins that are just as abhorrent to God so would flee from taking any position of moral authority in doing so.

Thus, my love would not ebb nor would I banish them either physically or emotionally. While we can not judge hearts as God does, we can judge actions. We do all the time; I would judge the action but I would hope with a good deal of love.

Wouldn't change how I felt about my kids.