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This is why you have no .22 ammo and we do, God likes us. Dad was born 1918, a WWI baby. He was a young man during the depression. When my dad was growing up he said a major, distinct shift occurred in society, i.e. business/industry, that went from charging a fair price for products and services to charging as much as they could get away with. What we call "market" today. He theorized that high post WWII consumer demand had much to do with it.
I'm not saying greed wasn't around before the 30' or 40's.
When folks were content with 10% profit, or high rollers 20%, peoples self-restraint and sense of fairness ruled. Kind of a polite society if you will, each taking what he needed, but realizing the need to watch out for his neighbor as well contained an unspoken provision for maintaining the good of all society through restraint. People kept their greed in check.
Up to that time in our country humility was a valued personal trait. It is not valued today in America. In fact, arrogance is valued and esteemed. Look at gay activists, movie stars, captains of industry, all proud and arrogant.
Look how everyone pulled together in WWII, for the good of all.
We all know that society, and especially business, no longer gears itself to anything but the $$, and businesses are comprised of people.
Business has changed because people have changed. Greed now runs unchecked, and society is the worse for it. One hope is for our buying power to be our leverage, (don't pay it).
But better, we need moral, humble, God-fearing people in positions of influence in society and govt that will put the good of all above their own personal gain. And we each personally need to turn back.
Say what you will, I think we cannot have what we all seek without the "God-fearing" part of the equation.
We can now see where God-LESS-ness has taken our country in just 60 years. It's time to humble ourselves, each and every one.
We need to each take stock of our hearts and quit placing ourselves above everyone around us. It's a failed experiment.
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This thread is going down the toilet.
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Ok. So how do you propose we stop it?
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You do nothing. The problem will take care of itself.
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There is no ammo shortage in Canada, .22 or otherwise. Because the demand for it is limited. No surprise there. No its because God hates you. So I have been told.
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This is why you have no .22 ammo and we do, God likes us. Dad was born 1918, a WWI baby. He was a young man during the depression. When my dad was growing up he said a major, distinct shift occurred in society, i.e. business/industry, that went from charging a fair price for products and services to charging as much as they could get away with. What we call "market" today. He theorized that high post WWII consumer demand had much to do with it.
I'm not saying greed wasn't around before the 30' or 40's.
When folks were content with 10% profit, or high rollers 20%, peoples self-restraint and sense of fairness ruled. Kind of a polite society if you will, each taking what he needed, but realizing the need to watch out for his neighbor as well contained an unspoken provision for maintaining the good of all society through restraint. People kept their greed in check.
Up to that time in our country humility was a valued personal trait. It is not valued today in America. In fact, arrogance is valued and esteemed. Look at gay activists, movie stars, captains of industry, all proud and arrogant.
Look how everyone pulled together in WWII, for the good of all.
We all know that society, and especially business, no longer gears itself to anything but the $$, and businesses are comprised of people.
Business has changed because people have changed. Greed now runs unchecked, and society is the worse for it. One hope is for our buying power to be our leverage, (don't pay it).
But better, we need moral, humble, God-fearing people in positions of influence in society and govt that will put the good of all above their own personal gain. And we each personally need to turn back.
Say what you will, I think we cannot have what we all seek without the "God-fearing" part of the equation.
We can now see where God-LESS-ness has taken our country in just 60 years. It's time to humble ourselves, each and every one.
We need to each take stock of our hearts and quit placing ourselves above everyone around us. It's a failed experiment. Might as well boil the fairy tale down to it's elements....eh?
Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off.
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off. You are assuming that because they are making "obscene profits" they also are not paying taxes. Nice.
Lunatic fringe....we all know you're out there.
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What we need here is goverment intervention to regulate this foolishness....
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What we need here is goverment intervention to regulate this foolishness.... Yep, the more regulation we have the better we will all be.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
They're all around the CampFire and everywhere.
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off. You are assuming that because they are making "obscene profits" they also are not paying taxes. Nice. Obscene requires a SCOTUS decision of course. The only reason you care is because you aren't the one making the profit.
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Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
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I'm self-employed and have been since I was 23, with a couple of years of other work thrown in. I know a little bit about business. I certainly don't need to explain myself to you or anyone.
Just curious why the animosity towards a guy you've never met and seem determined to slander?
Nice. Congrats. Do you sell time and product or just time? How many, if any, employees?
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If not government intervention, can I at LEAST get some support for some tarring and feathering of people making "too much" money on .22 ammo?
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off. You are assuming that because they are making "obscene profits" they also are not paying taxes. Nice. I am assuming nothing. When was the last time you saw an individual selling stuff out of his trunk that charged sales tax. But I do doubt that a guy who is selling crap on facebook for cash is declaring it as income.
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Anybody need 22 shells. Got a few bricks I would take 125.00 each for
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If you were near me I would donate a brick for you and your son to go shooting. I stopped shooting my 22s when all of this ammo shortage stuff started. I still have a pile of it but with no chance of replacing it i quit shooting.
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off. You are assuming that because they are making "obscene profits" they also are not paying taxes. Nice. I am assuming nothing. When was the last time you saw an individual selling stuff out of his trunk that charged sales tax. Uhh Avon lady
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off. You are assuming that because they are making "obscene profits" they also are not paying taxes. Nice. he is assuming that selling the marked up bricks at a gun show, (or any other venue) for cash, is a darn good indicator that they are not declaring the income.
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This is why you have no .22 ammo and we do, God likes us. Dad was born 1918, a WWI baby. He was a young man during the depression. When my dad was growing up he said a major, distinct shift occurred in society, i.e. business/industry, that went from charging a fair price for products and services to charging as much as they could get away with. What we call "market" today. He theorized that high post WWII consumer demand had much to do with it.
I'm not saying greed wasn't around before the 30' or 40's.
When folks were content with 10% profit, or high rollers 20%, peoples self-restraint and sense of fairness ruled. Kind of a polite society if you will, each taking what he needed, but realizing the need to watch out for his neighbor as well contained an unspoken provision for maintaining the good of all society through restraint. People kept their greed in check.
Up to that time in our country humility was a valued personal trait. It is not valued today in America. In fact, arrogance is valued and esteemed. Look at gay activists, movie stars, captains of industry, all proud and arrogant.
Look how everyone pulled together in WWII, for the good of all.
We all know that society, and especially business, no longer gears itself to anything but the $$, and businesses are comprised of people.
Business has changed because people have changed. Greed now runs unchecked, and society is the worse for it. One hope is for our buying power to be our leverage, (don't pay it).
But better, we need moral, humble, God-fearing people in positions of influence in society and govt that will put the good of all above their own personal gain. And we each personally need to turn back.
Say what you will, I think we cannot have what we all seek without the "God-fearing" part of the equation.
We can now see where God-LESS-ness has taken our country in just 60 years. It's time to humble ourselves, each and every one.
We need to each take stock of our hearts and quit placing ourselves above everyone around us. It's a failed experiment. Sonofabtich I think this guy from Canaduh might be right!!! Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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This thread is going down the toilet. Talk to the OP. He's a pot stirrer. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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It is only the guys buying retail with the express intent to resale at retail plus 50+% profit with the further intent to not pay taxes on said profits that piss me off. You are assuming that because they are making "obscene profits" they also are not paying taxes. Nice. he is assuming that selling the marked up bricks at a gun show, (or any other venue) for cash, is a darn good indicator that they are not declaring the income. Sounds like a loophole... Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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