Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting Do many here use MILS?

Was that a serious answer and is this a serious question?

I'm sorry I try not to do this, but I gotta ask, how many big game animals have you killed? Not one person that I have ever met or hunted with that had killed much at all has not had to put more than one round in animals.

Well if working off the 7 MPH or 9MPH drift is as easy as the base 10 MPH drift and if splitting MILs holds into 10th is easy. Wind brackets in MILs is a simply silly method of estimating wind holds. Still it is funny that I understand it better than you, makes me smile.



Not so much a fan of FFP because I use hunting optics with reasonable zoom ratios.

Spotters with reticles sound real cool until you actually use them hunting. In the Big Boy world of hunting the spotter is employed for, literally, days of looking for every second of spotting shots. Reticles seriously degrade a spotters utility for the number one job of finding game. Not mention there are simply no Alpha Level spotters with a reticle of any type.

As I stated in my post I can very simply see MOA in a spotter without a reticle. There are quite a few members here at the Fire that can attest to the fact that I can call pretty good wind (in MOA or MILs) from my Swaro 65mm HD and my Leupy 60mm HD. You might say I am something of a proven entity.

You on the other hand are simply an anonymous internet poster who seems to scared to post under your own name. Care to change that and let us all know who you are?????????????

Pat, John B, Rick, Jordan, John (JWP), Larry, Joshua, Shane, Pete, Jeff, and Tanner have all contributed to this thread. Non have felt the need to hide behind a screen name. How about you open up a little and let us know who we are yappin at??

Here is the country I hunt and how we find bucks. Reticles in the spotter are a major distraction and will cost you bucks, bulls, rams, and boars.





You seem full up on theory but lacking in real world application. Funny thing about experience in that it takes time and is pretty expensive. Of course it is also pretty valuable.

ps, I cherry picked those picts with the MK6 because they were right about the same range you had "issues" with an elk this year.

JB: Just a thought, but the whole "using your real name" thing comes off as a little self-serving, coming from a guy who sells the equipment being discussed.

It is pretty much a ford chevy type thing IMO. For shooting I feel confident using either MOA or MILs. For ranging I suck with mils, and suck a good bit less with MOA. I know the NPR2 reticle is not that popular here, but I like it. As long as things are MOA/MOA or MIL/MIL its all good.

I agree, and I like the NP-R2 more than the NP-R1

Ford/Chevy things do tend to make for good reading and long threads.

Se�or formy,

Of course that's a serious question and answer.

I really don't know how many big game animals I've killed cuz I don't keep a tally, but your question made me at least think. Of the 4 Oryx I've killed, I did shoot one twice because it ran 50 more yards and stopped. I did shoot only one of the many mulies I've killed twice. Shot it at 300 with a .243 and it walked 5 feet and stopped so I let him have another. The first shot was lethal. When I was 18 I shot an antelope at 600 yards with a .22-250 that required a finisher. I've never shot an elk or goat more than once.

Seems to me everyone you've met or hunted with needs to improve their first round accuracy.

Maybe if they really knew where it was going or had a clue about calling wind...

All this talk about cold bore accuracy is humorous. Very, very few hunters have ever shot a 10 shot group, or admitted to the results. Even less have tested cold bore accuracy, because it's more inconvenient and time consuming. But, its easy to claim when your rifle shoots a 1.5" three shot group.

BTW, I have a friend who has the means to be able to hunt when and where he likes. He takes yearly trips to Africa.

His consecutive 1-shot kills now total 52


....and of the 10,000 of these I killed in 5 days, I can think of only 3 that required a second barrel.

Smoke,

I have to disagree. By being upfront about who I am and what I do anyone can then put my opinions into context. If I were king everyone would have to post under their own name.


Formidilosus is obviously advertising.

When you're ready for some lessons with that shotgun let me know.

After attending two Icebreaker shoots I decided to try a MIL system. Actually, I decided to have my son try a MIL system that way if I didn't like it, he was stuck with the POS and not me.

After doing so I have decided to convert all my optics to MILS.

You can end this discussion now.


Travis

Rick,

Just a question, cuz I may be confused here, but is shotgunning doves the same thing as shooting mule deer at 700 yards?

Thanks!


(just ribbing ya!)

You guys are just "wanna be snipers"..............grin!

LOL, that's ironic! There's nothing wrong with advertising, right John?!

Bring your freakin' gear this time!

Mini-'flave is no sniper, but he went three for three on some eggs last weekend. First at 200+ and the next two were at 300+.



Travis

If the wind isn't too ridiculous tomorrow we're gonna hit the prairie dog town.

With our ghillie suits of course...



Travis

Should be able to get a few 7 yard shots in ghillie suits. Don't forget your dope card. Dialing in the wrong ele and windage will result in everyone knowing that you're not authentic snipers, much to your chagrin...

Be honest John... you've also developed simple yet highly sophisticated indicators of wind speed in the field.

Visa Vi..... "The spotter just blew over, and my hat flew off.... lets call it 30 MPH."....

You'll actually need to dial UP 6.8 mils from your 100 yard zero for that 7 yard shot.

carry on....