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At 600 yards, the 243 is better than the 348.

Additionally, its the Indian, not the arrow. That Indian (John Burns) with that arrow (243/105 VLD) has shown that it isn't unethical for him. He's doing it.

VLD = Fragile? Since when? Have you ever shot an animal with one? No. Stick to what you know.

Just because you or I cannot make the 600 yard 243 shot every time does not mean John and his cronies can't.

You're mistaking your bias with judgement. They are not the same. Your judgement on this is flawed.

I would think that shooting an elk at 600 yds with a 243 would be akin to shooting one at 100 yards with a 22 lr.
could be done,but why would you?
seems someone who can afford to shoot tens and tens of elk should be able to afford a more suitable rifle.

Again, he's killed scores, you've killed what?

The rifle that you shoot well with a bullet that kills cleanly is the appropriate rifle. No?

I still think the 243 is not an elk rifle (at any range); sure some have used it successfully, but it leaves little for margin.

OK, Eskimo's have used 22 LR and 22 Hornet and 223 rifles on polar bears, but ..... how many Eskimos have used them repeatedly successfully and kept their life insurance policies intact? An eaten Eskimo rarely leaves a hunting report.

260 vs 7MM08 Thats what this thread is about.Not friggen 22 LR ,338 Win.Mags or 243s.Short attention spans right here.

Yup....is there REALLY that much, if any, difference between them?

I think the 7/08 was made popular by guys in the silhouette game looking for enough energy and bullet to topple rams while minimizing recoil...a I recall it was Jim Carmichael got the same ball rolling for the 260.

I have used the 7/08 off and on since almost when it was introduced for deer hunting, mostly back here. Friends have done the same. I can't imagine a 260 is substantially different in any way except bullet weight.

I would take the 7/08 since it seems far more popular, and ammo is easy to get. As a general purpose elk rifle neither one would make my short list, but that doesn't mean I'd be afraid to use one on elk either.

I suppose I would go with whoever is actually bringing home the bacon, versus what a bunch of people carried to elk camp.

Burns seems to put some big boys on the ground regularly with his lowly 243 VLD rig. As do his clients. As does anyone else that I know of who uses the 243 with good bullets.

If a hole through the vital kills, how big of a hole does one need to kill quickly? I've seen deer die from 22, 24, 26, 27, 28, and 30 caliber holes. They all seemed to die in about the same amount of time with similar responses to similar hits.

Both are short action cartridges, and are limited to the OAL of the magazine. .264 vs .284. Either can work, but can not take the heaver bullets available in the caliber in the short action without limiting the powder capacity. The medium/long action can take anything available. What is the attraction with the short action? 1/2 a pound at best.. Both are know to have great penetration for caliber.

Magazine length is a limit of the rifle design, not the cartridge. Not all magazines are created equal.

anyway, since the the thread is 260 vs. 7-08, the issue is moot.

your problem is obvious,even to an idiot like me.

both will get the job done

You are arguing with wish and fancy. What I read is that so far the only one who has shot an animal with a .243 at distance and who has posted here in this discussion is John Burns. Know nothing arm chair quarterbacks can always find fault in someone's success and for good reason, they could never make that shot with any caliber rifle under any circumstance.

Ahhhhh come on jimmy it's the internet, where you be everything your not able to be in real life

zackly

Does he speak for himself or do you guys just have mancrushes and can't resist?

what is it to you? If you want to post drivel go post on a gamer site. If you ain't done it don't post B.S. about it, take it somewhere else.

John's shooting speaks for its self it seems...

That's what I was thinking too

Well in that case, I have a 260 because it's more like a 243 in recoil and performs like a 7-08 on game animals.