Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting Do many here use MILS?

apparently so can I on occasion...

Funny how that picture makes it look like a gorgeous day....

My favorite is when I forget to dial back after a long shot. Nothing quite as cool as shooting 4 feet over a prairie dog at 100 yards.

I was trying to stay outta this, but dicklips put me over the edge....

Or a deer....

I had been checking drops to 400 on a new Ti 30-06, and left the clicks in the scope. Went deer hunting a day or three later and had a chip shot at a hundred or so. Shot and the deer ran anther hundred or so, and stopped quartering away, looking back over her shoulder. Another shot and she folded like a Walmart lawn chair. Got up to her, and I had center punched the neck. WTF?

Next day I had everything loaded to go check the zero, and got the brain storm to check the scope....oops. Just by schithouse luck her vitals were inline with her neck. Mystery solved and a lesson learned.

I would agree with this. The fact that Formid takes the time to be helpful and post a long description of what he gets paid to teach people, for free, is nothing more than trying to help out his fellow shooters. He's not advertising his name or company, so it doesn't really benefit him economically. I appreciate a lot of the info he posts.

everyone who's anyone has you on ignore, I just happened to toggle at the wrong time......

Exactly. I haven't seen Form lead anyone astray. He posts good, practical info, and is a definite asset to the 'Fire, whether some egos choose to acknowledge that or not.

somehow I get the feeling that JB knows exactly who formadillo is and is patting himself on the back for pointing out some discrepancies in the teachings. thats why I think he called for him to post his real name.

this I will say I think the tactical community could learn things from people like JB and his equipment although I am not a leupold user anymore. the people at g7 have come out with an RF unit that does alot of cool things, it would be prefect for the tactical crowd but because it didn't come to the market through the right channels its virtually unknown to most of that crowd. imagine if they had paid frank at snipers hide a bunch of money to review and pimp the g7 RF unit over there?? or if george wrote about it over there. once you have been around that group over there you realize its very myopic and group think over there.

GFY

It sucks to be an untrained dickhead, don't it?

Those who do all of their shooting from the couch, never miss.

[/quote]On the second point, it appears to me that Formidolosus was responding to a direct question with a direct answer, and avoided advertising by keeping the name of his company out of it. The only thing ironic about it is that you labeled it as advertising. [/quote]

Smokepole is spot on with his assessment of this except I think it smacks of being pompous instead of ironic.

If the g7 would output a solution in mils and meters, it might be better received by those who use mils and meters.

yeah maybe but its really simpler than that, you enter your load info and this is your baseline, it spits out a corrected yardage according to your baseline. so what most people do is have their turret etched with the baseline on it, G7 automatically gives a firing solution based on the baseline then gives you an adjusted yardage to shoot to. so if the actual distance is 750 yards but your shooting in cold conditions and at lower altitude than the baseline you entered, it spits out a shot to distance of say 780. so you adjust to 780 and shot. no looking at a drop chart, no thinking about MOA or mils at least in the elevation adjustment, wind is another manner. for taking a shot up hill, downhill in the mountains and in all sorts of conditions I can't imagine anything else giving quicker firing solutions is almost like have a spotter in your hand instead of needing to tell you what to do. there is no free lunch with the wind.

CC, was Pat following group mentality when he switched to mils? He doesnt seem the type. I wonder how many hearts he has stopped at dial and hold off distances?

Ole "Larry The Root" just can't stay away. Why post something when you already know that everybody knows who you are and your post is based on nothing but pure imagination laced with pure B.S. He should bring some of his junk and superior knowledge to a real shoot some day.

You're right, I haven't been shootin' much of late, but I still remember to look at my elevation dial before I find my NPA, just like I still remember the JMPI sequence I learned 30 years ago. Like I said, it sucks to be untrained.

No, he does not. He tried to "call me out" because he sells a Leupold MOA scope.


I don't use my name because this isn't Facebook and I'm not trying to sell anything. I don't care who John or anyone else is. Either what someone posts is sound or it's not. I don't care about what someone likes in a spotter, nor do I care about shooting winged rats.

For someone to say that the difference in 1/3rd MOA clicks and 1/10th Mil clicks will make them less successful on targets is so ridiculous that even a rank beginner should see through it.




You seem to have some issues fixation with Frank and snipers hide, but we're so far past what the G7 RF does that it's not even on the radar. Competitors will do and buy almost ANYTHING to get a teeny, tiny advantage. If the G7 was the hotness I'd be rolling it instead of a LTLM, PLRF15, etc. that's free. I'm not sure why you need affirmation that your choices or ideas are great? If you want to use MOA, do so. Why do you feel that you need someone to tell you that everyone that uses Mils are wrong?

That's nice. Like I said, the only guys who don't make mistakes, don't shoot.

Pics? Nah...you're FOS. Off to ignore with you.

Why don't you just use that method then? Why all the drama?