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Wow, Check this out. Still not on the shelves, but coming to a store near you in 9mm... Those complaining of the stopping power of the 9mm will have to find something else to pick on...


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"Reducing acceleration at point of impact......"????? So, it's also self-propelled? Gotta love the verbiage used to make things sound sufficiently pompous. Seems to me Winchester had a winner a few years back that was also too effective for the civilian market.


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You start advertising how "lethal" they are, and the govt will soon ban them...

Can't have those "dangerous" bullets out there, now can we?

Winchester Black Talon ammo still brings a high premium when you see it.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
You start advertising how "lethal" they are, and the govt will soon ban them...

Can't have those "dangerous" bullets out there, now can we?

Winchester Black Talon ammo still brings a high premium when you see it.


Really you can still buy it under the new name not coated black any more but with the same performance. Winchester Ranger T series. I have a box for most of my handguns. Trust me I didn't pay any premium price for it. Around $23 per a box of 50.

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Referring to the wonder bullet...

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I was under the impression that with 147 gr. hollowpoints there wasn't any need to complain now about effectiveness of 9mm?


provided bullet placement is satisfactory


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There is always that placement thingy. LOL I saw a show on tv where a guy, that was being attacked in AZ, shot a guy with , OMG, hollow points and he chose those bullets for the stopping power. When he went to trial the jurors used the lethal bullet as his bullet of choice to send him to the pen. Total BS but the women juror was adamant that the choice of bullet was what sent her over the edge for a conviction.

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I'll take RBCD's any day over these.

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I hope they make it to the shelves soon! Gold Dot's might be easier to get then and I can afford them.


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Many argue that there is no better bullet for deer hunting than a monometal. Yet for a confrontation where the target might very well kill you, people are screaming for a bullet which is designed to fragment on impact????? Can you say "splash wound"?

Multiple wound tracks might be desirable when inflicted by 1 1/4 oz of OO buck. But when the projectile weighs a measly 115 gr, I'll take a traditional HP.

ETA: make that 96 gr

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The trocar design creates a unique turbulence that helps stabilize the "cartridge". Sweet I can break out my smooth bore 9mm...

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JUST WOW, I perused a couple of other sites where folk were commenting on this bullet.

The total ignorance of all thing ballistic demonstrated by those whom are self proclaimed gun fans is absolutely amazing. But then several of them also claimed to be liberals who also happen to like owning handguns.

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It weighs 96 gr to start with and breaks into 9 fragments. The heaviest of which is comparable to a 22 LR, the rest would average around 5 gr each.

Remember the old comment about what such and such bullet would do to the breast of a buxom woman??? grin

I think I will stick with the 210 Hornady XTP or maybe the Sierra 170 HP for a chosen SD bullet.


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Originally Posted by WildWest
There is always that placement thingy. LOL I saw a show on tv where a guy, that was being attacked in AZ, shot a guy with , OMG, hollow points and he chose those bullets for the stopping power. When he went to trial the jurors used the lethal bullet as his bullet of choice to send him to the pen. Total BS but the women juror was adamant that the choice of bullet was what sent her over the edge for a conviction.


Anyone believe this?


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Massad Ayoob apparently believes it. He has been penning horror stories like that for decades.


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They have improved on the 45 caliber 200 grain SWC at 1,000 fps?

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Old school, Speer Flying Ashtray, 200 gr JHP in 45acp had the best 1 shot stop for years & years. I've still got a few of them. But now I prefer the Speer Gold Dot 230gr JHP. And their 200gr JHP 10mm bullet is one heck of a deer & hog killer.

Personally, I'll stick with Speer Gold Dots over some new "wonder" bullet. JMO


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