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Rabid,

It seems noone has a card reader with 'em,but I'll try to finger sumptin' out. There has been a purty good Storm brewing with windchills in the -60 realm and mebbe that got 'em moving around a bit and they'll crowd closer.

Mils is for steering boolits...not "measuring" distances anyhow.










pointer,

Go fixed and never look back.

Hint.

I'm guessing for hunting you'd suggest a Leupold over a SS, correct?

Thanks Larry

I'm thinking Remington 541-X .22LR with 10X SS for 200 yard matches.

Mike

6x




9x




Trees are around 900-1,000 yards away and pics are taken through two planes of glass.

Thanks!

That is much better.

I can see those well enough to give that a try.

Mike

Received a 3-9x42 with mil-dot reticle today. So far I've mounted it up and peeked through it out the windows of the house, and the scope really impresses me! The turrets, adjustments, glass, and fit/finish are all fantastic for a scope in this price range. Very excited to put it through the paces!

pointer,

Lotsa Leupold's suck and especially for Killing...but that can be said of ANY Maker. The Fixed [bleep] gotta alotta things right,but the reticle isn't gonna be as nearly forgiving as many,for heavy cover and low light. That mainly because it ain't designed to do them thangs.

Is there Leupold glass/reticles in which I've much faith?

Oh yesssssssss.(grin)










Rabid,

I believe you will be tickled and then some,as that melding is a Good 'Un.

Scored a card reader today and will hang pics,mebbe tomorrow night,of the MilQuad at various distances(Fox's face at 11 Mils and a MuskOx at .2 Mils).

If only for conversation.










Jordan,

I assume that's the glass we yacked about?

How much "up" in total travel,do it house?

Spill your guts after the dust settles.

Form- Thanks for the pictures! Too bad it only muddies the waters for me...as I think I could make that work.

Boxer- I think I'm reading between the lines well enough! Thanks.

Had a SD card failure and seem to have lost pics. Will try again tomorrow and see WTF.

Duplex lines is the easiest to read between.(grin)

Yup, that's the one.

Took it out for a little play time today, despite the gale force winds. Had several rigs out for the fun, but it was definitely a .625 kind of day *grin*

The scope seems pretty happy to ride on top of the Montucky 7WSM, balancing the whole rig quite nicely. Steering 162's through the gusts was especially entertaining, given the fine crosshair and the bold posts of the mil-dot reticle. I'm liking the glass and the reticle so far. I think this reticle may be a great compromise between a LR shooting tool and something that rides on a utility hunting rig. The turrets are very solid and repeatable, though to be fair one still needs to measure each scope's tracking, even if it is a SWFA SS, as this scope moved POI up 3.045 MIL at 101 meters (30.8 cm) when 2.9 MIL was dialed in, making for a 5% greater shift than expected. It's no problem to account for such things, as long as a guy knows what he's got. Repeatability and RTZ was flawless throughout the day while going back and forth from 101m, 501m, 595m, and 704m. Total elevation range in the erector assy is 23.3 MIL, with 13.3 MIL usable from a 101m zero, while riding in Talley LW's. Glass is crisp, and fit and finish is excellent, especially for a scope in this price range.

Time will tell if the scope continues to impress, but things are looking good so far.

As I've mentioned prior,I take the adjustment "values" of all glass with a grain of salt. I gun 100yd paper in good conditions,to establish how things track and what the values are in actuality...instead of proposed. From there,I'm looking for lineal shifts through the erectors travel and a return to zero,with bigggggggg input shifts between pokes.

That don't take long and the warm/fuzzy is either immediate or never. Hint.

On a variable,I gun on different powers...to see how much things move around with zoom selector shift. There's lotsa reasons why I LOVE fixed glass.

I'm averaging better than 23 Mils of useable on the Fixxed [bleep],aboard mounting systems without inclination. The tilted schit,really reaches and then there's always 10 Mils on the reticle for frosting.

Disappointed that I lost them images,as it's intellesting to let the Subtension Crowd suffer in their range "finding".(grin)

Yup, hitting the upper and lower erector stops a few times between shots makes for a good test of the scope's tracking integrity.

Regarding the variable vs. fixed- I'll take what I can get. But if I'm rolling a variable with a marked reticle of some sort, it's gonna be FFP.

23 MIL useable is a lot of friggin "up", but 13.3 will get me to 1430 meters at my locale, sans reticle. Another 5 MIL in the reticle will go beyond a mile. Plenty far for 9x glass on a Montana. If I had 23 MIL it'd take me to 1860 meters, and another 10 would get to 2175m. That's 2378 yards, which is a bloody long ways off

I'll admit that it caught me slightly off guard tonight when I compared the SS 3-9, set on 6x, side by side with the FX3 6x42. The optics in the SS were brighter and had better resolution, while the Leup LRD showed up slightly better than the SS mil-dot against dark backgrounds, a little beyond twilight. The mil-dot was still useable, but not as bold as the LRD, which makes sense since it is a much finer crosshair.

The surprising thing is that while observing out of the window with the SS, I could clearly see a plane passing up high, with its safety lights flickering every second or so. When I watched the same plane with the FX3, I couldn't make out the plane itself, but I could see the lights flicker, and was able to track the plane that way.

I thought the optics in the SS would pale next to the FX3, but that doesn't seem to be the case so far.

Coupla scenes from today...as Fixed [bleep] reticles go,if only for conversation.





Had 19 MuskOx on another camera and will load 'em later.

Looks to be your scope is crooked.

Prolly needed a 3rd hand,to keep things straight...though it were a beautiful day and hovering around right at 0 with modest wind. Have had a buncha 35mph+ winds and cold ambient temps(-45).

Odd that noone is espousing range "determinations".(grin)

just having fun with/u

The 3-9, to me, is a step up optically from the SWFA fixed scopes.

It's pretty impressive optically, that's for sure, but it's also double the price of the 6x and 10x fixed scopes.

Did you get any word about the 3-9 zero stops? I'm interested in a set as well, but last time I looked the fellow was not yet set up for them.

Also, you might want to check out the AAD scope covers. A buddy recently picked up a set. While expensive, they are absolutely great thus far. I'll likely buy some and give them a test. They look really well built, especially compared to Butler Creeks, which have absolutely gone to schit.