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really hard to say where you hear more BS... gun stores or used car lots.
Or the Campfire... Try standing in the gallery of the NYS Legislature when they are "working"!
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What I love is when you are in a gun store and you hear people both buying and selling telling how accurate thier rifle is. Examples that I have heard or seen
Open sighted 30-30 10 shots under the size of a dime at 100 yards
I have hit a fly with this gun at 50 yards. Bolt action single shot stevens 22 with a Tasco 4x scope
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really hard to say where you hear more BS... gun stores or used car lots.
Or the Campfire... So you can't believe everything you read on the 24CF ? I'm shocked
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really hard to say where you hear more BS... gun stores or used car lots.
Or the Campfire... So you can't believe everything you read on the 24CF ? I'm shocked I don't believe that!
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Saw two guys at walmart looking for ammo for a 300 Win Mag
All they had was 30WSM, and the clerk told him it's just like the win mag, just shorter, so it should be able to fit, and would probably kick less, since its shorter.
I had to intervene.
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Barry will be teaching a class in great BS tomorrow night.
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You guys take this sort of thing hard...
really hard
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That which does not kill us makes us stronger
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Saw two guys at walmart looking for ammo for a 300 Win Mag
All they had was 30WSM, and the clerk told him it's just like the win mag, just shorter, so it should be able to fit, and would probably kick less, since its shorter.
I had to intervene. LMAO
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My cousin once told me that a 3006 is faster than a 308 at muzzle but the 308 catches up and is faster at long range; he had the book that showed it too.
I mentioned different bullets having different b.c.'s to a blank look.
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I was at a shop the other day, and three times in a row when the salesperson opened the case to show me a firearm, he handed it to me without opening the action and checking the firearm.
There's stupid and then their's RFS (Really F'in stupid.) The third time, I finally couldn't take it and said, "You know my friend, if you will control that muzzle and check that firearm for ammunition before you hand it to someone, then nobody will get negligently shot."
Of course, he said that none of the guns are ever loaded. "Assume they are loaded", I said, "and then always present the firearm with the action open so the person you are handing it to can also inspect it. Christ son, you don't get a second chance on this."
He actually seemed to appreciate it afterwards, so hopefully he takes it to heart.
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Well, quite a few of the crew right here on this very same forum talk about their rifles as being "tack drivers." You ever try that? Yep but it is not hard to shoot the thumtacks holding targets through the backer board, flys are much more challenging. I suspect trying to drive a nail into wood may be a little more challenging.
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Spend the week before deer season in any gun store. You will see and hear things - on both sides of the counter - that will make you scared to ever set foot in the woods again. ain't that the truth.... my other favorite thing to go and see is when the local range here is the most busiest... most folks would think it was the night before deer or elk season opens...and the last minute guys checking last years zero.... at ours, it is the Sunday night at the end of the first weekend... every bozo who shot at something and missed it, is blaming it on his rifle, his ammo, his scope etc, everything except himself... they'll be out there blazing away with five different boxes of ammo, from different companies and different bullet weights... I love the humor, and also how much brass is left laying around or thrown in the trash can...nothing unusual to go over and pick up 150 to 200 pieces of brass.. in the normal hunting calibers....243, 06, 270, 7 Mag are the most common..... You ought to see a gun range in the Texas Hill Country about noon on opening day of deer season. All the sports are there blaming their rifles for their horrendous shooting. It is fun to just sit and watch. Truly a "cluster" with a capital F. It beats the San Antonio Zoo any day for strange sights! I've been to a public gun range ONCE in my life. Glad I"ve never been since. And that was probalby 25 years ago.
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I was at a shop the other day, and three times in a row when the salesperson opened the case to show me a firearm, he handed it to me without opening the action and checking the firearm.
There's stupid and then their's RFS (Really F'in stupid.) The third time, I finally couldn't take it and said, "You know my friend, if you will control that muzzle and check that firearm for ammunition before you hand it to someone, then nobody will get negligently shot."
Of course, he said that none of the guns are ever loaded. "Assume they are loaded", I said, "and then always present the firearm with the action open so the person you are handing it to can also inspect it. Christ son, you don't get a second chance on this."
He actually seemed to appreciate it afterwards, so hopefully he takes it to heart. Be nice to get a dummyround, and slip it in tehre and hand back... then ask... BTW do you ever check for loaded..... I got one of my hunter ed students on a primed only case in a class, that guy trusted me, and violated the rule so I asked if he would point it safely and test the trigger, it was a very fine trigger. And made a fairly loud pop.... and made a point to him, and the class...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Hands up who's ever asked the diffrence tween .30/30 and .300 savage? i have. That just sounds like a guy that's looking for some honest information. At lease he wasn't telling you some nonsense about what he thought the difference was.
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I've heard the triggers on .270's have to be set that light to shoot accurately.... The lighter the trigger the flatter the gun shoots.
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Ok, I just gotta tell the story. I was in a shop in Roseburg OR about 4 years ago looking at handguns. The owners son was an Army armorer fresh out of the service and was showing me everything under the glass, some I didn't want to see. I was holding my daughters hand and had 3 of my other kids in this small shop. The dorkfish "armorer" pulld an H&K .40 out of a plastic box, racks the slide and shows it to me. i didn't want to see it and told him so. He sits down on a stool behind the counter and aimed the gun at the glass. Then our resident "expert" touches one off.....through the glass and into the floor behind me. My daughter (3 years old at the time) had just wandered off to her brother, if she hadn't she would have caught one in the chest. I felt something blow by my pantleg, I think it was glass. You couldn't hear yourself think in the room, the owner comes out of his office wailing and crying "Not again"...lotta help that was...turns out he shot himself in the hand at a gunshow a few years earlier. My first thought was to jump the counter and beat thesnot out of this guy but instead I started doing a head count of kids who were, thanks God, all ok. I was too stunned for a few seconds to address the issue, finally I just gathered up my kids and my stuff and bailed out of there. I'll never enter the place again of course...long afterstory of the owner back peddling and making excuses. The best was that he said the other store in town had 2 or 3 AD's a year. Just....wow.
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Heard at various times:
Don't shoot Remington ammo in a Winchester rifle. It was made for Remington guns and not Winchester.
A .264 Magnum is not suitable for antelope or small deer. The bullet is so fast it will go clear through and not expand.
Don't shoot 220 gr. ammo in a new Winchester 30-06 until you've fired a few boxes of shells. The barrel will be too tight to handle them.
In training, a boot accidentally fired a .45 auto in the direction of a D.I. It hit him in the thumb and spun him clear around.
Et cetera.....
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I've heard the triggers on .270's have to be set that light to shoot accurately.... The lighter the trigger the flatter the gun shoots. Tell me you're trying to pull our legs and you really don't believe that. A trigger has absolutely NOTHING to do with how flat a gun shoots.
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Actually a heavier trigger makes them shoot flatter because the cartridge gets hit harder. Sort of like revolvers hit harder if you fling them forward when you shoot, like in the old cowboy movies.
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Which explains a lot.
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Heard at various times:
Don't shoot Remington ammo in a Winchester rifle. It was made for Remington guns and not Winchester.
Oh, that's a good one... Might have to spread that one around...
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