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Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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Are you kidding? You obviously haven't seen my last electric bill.  
"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23)
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nothing at all wrong with public hangings. Chemical free!!
Sam......
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nothing at all wrong with public hangings. Chemical free!! chit, we can use hemp rope and then its organic!
I kill chit. "The Heathens nest"
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Why not just inject some air? Heard that will kill em dead enough.
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And yet .gov confiscates enough Mexican black tar heroin each year to keep the entire southwest in a stupor. Why not re-task that stuff and keep big pharma out of the loop? We already know that .gov is already dealing with the cartels. no chit and its even actually pretty humane for the whiners.....your body just forgets to breath....
A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books
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To me it isn't cruel or unusual punishment if a murderer is killed in a manner that is ANY less painful/torturous than the manner in which he/she killed his/her victims. Basically, in my opinion, the method of murder should be the only limit for the method of execution.
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Why worry about "approved for human use".
It's used to kill a guy, are they worried about his future health?
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Mathemeticians: What's the force of a 200 lb when he hits the end of a 6' rope? Here's a chart showing the breaking strength of polyester rope in sizes up to 1". (I hate the way this board hashes charts when pasted in)
Rope Diameter Minimum Breaking Strength Safe Load
(Safety Factor 12) Weight
(in) (mm) (lbf) (kN) (lbf) (kN) (lbm/ft) (kg/m)
3/16 5 765 3.40 63.8 0.284 0.011 0.016
1/4 6 1315 5.85 110 0.487 0.020 0.029
5/16 8 2050 9.1 171 0.760 0.031 0.045
3/8 10 2900 12.9 242 1.07 0.044 0.065
7/16 11 3915 17.4 326 1.45 0.059 0.088
1/2 12 5085 22.6 424 1.88 0.077 0.115
9/16 14 6435 28.6 536 2.39 0.098 0.146
5/8 16 7825 34.8 652 4.15 0.120 0.179
3/4 18 11200 49.8 933 5.65 0.172 0.256
7/8 22 15225 67.7 1270 7.34 0.234 0.348
1 24 19775 88.0 1650 8.23 0.304 0.452 200lbs would be about 14mph at 6' Around 1315 ft.lbs. if I remember my math correctly.
Do not feed the bear!
White Bear sometimes treads on thin ice...
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Why not just inject some air? Heard that will kill em dead enough. "Airing them Out" is a different method...
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There are several substitutes for Pentothal, all available. Have your local prison contact me for the names.
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Folks love morphine.
Start em on it and don't stop until they are too happy to breathe.
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Until executions can be carried out within 3 years of pronouncement,instead of the 12-20 years it now take, I suggest life without parole become the SOP.
By the time executions are carried out these days, a good many of the victims families are dead and gone or other life changes compel them to change their minds as to wanting death being carried out against the condemned.
Many condemned certainly need killing but why wait until the condemned are more likely to die of natural causes?
I'm pro death penalty but only if it occurs within a short period of time after the exhaustion of one designated appellate process specifically created to handle death penalty appeals.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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Yeah, the death penalty shouldn't be old age. How then to do this?
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Until executions can be carried out within 3 years of pronouncement,instead of the 12-20 years it now take, I suggest life without parole become the SOP.
By the time executions are carried out these days, a good many of the victims families are dead and gone or other life changes compel them to change their minds as to wanting death being carried out against the condemned.
Many condemned certainly need killing but why wait until the condemned are more likely to die of natural causes?
I'm pro death penalty but only if it occurs within a short period of time after the exhaustion of one designated appellate process specifically created to handle death penalty appeals. Well for me, time doesn't heal all wounds. If you are supposed to die, sooner the better, but I'll be damned if I"m for something like if we can't get it done in 3 years... you don't have to die except by old age in the pen. Kill em and don't house em for the rest of their lives...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Who has the title to Devil's Island these days...? That or maybe some god forsaken, shark surrounded dot of land in the Pacific. Dump'em off with a tent and some seeds and a "have a nice rest of your life".
Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery.
Hit the target, all else is twaddle!
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The successful work of the "Innocence Project" somewhat has me a bit leery of the ultimate punishment, as well.
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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I get that part of the project.... but say these days with DNA as evidence.... what are we waiting for....
And for me, hell if you give me wrongly life in prison, you may as well kill me. I'm not going to have a good time either way, and a life in prison, well that would be worse than a needle at this point.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I get that part of the project.... but say these days with DNA as evidence.... what are we waiting for....
And for me, hell if you give me wrongly life in prison, you may as well kill me. I'm not going to have a good time either way, and a life in prison, well that would be worse than a needle at this point. cause unfortunately these days some labs take short cuts and [bleep] up....im a believer in the death penalty but our system has some definite issues....there are some cases that while the death penalty is deserved because of the evidence the "express lane" aint a good idea....however at times when there is video evidence of the crime ect and there is no doubt about guilt by anyone than there shouldnt be any waiting around...
A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books
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Until executions can be carried out within 3 years of pronouncement,instead of the 12-20 years it now take, I suggest life without parole become the SOP.
...I'm pro death penalty but only if it occurs within a short period of time after the exhaustion of one designated appellate process specifically created to handle death penalty appeals. Bob, I mostly concur. I am not exactly pro-death penalty, but I'm not against it under the circumstances you allude to. Some folks just need killin'. But it has to be swift and merciful, in my opinion. Life in solitary confinement without parole is an extremely harsh punishment, but it's cheaper than the costs of the appeals of every death sentence.
"I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars
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