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I'm looking at the backstory that NO ONE is talking about... i.e., why is sodium pentothal no longer being manufactured in the United States? The answer is frightening: it's because pharmaceutical manufacturers are closing their doors and/or leaving the U.S. in droves because of the insane regulatory environment propagated by our federal government.

Every month at our hospital medical staff meeting a long list of drugs that are in short supply or unavailable is circulated. It's becoming more and more dangerous as these critical drugs are disappearing from our shores, and have to be imported from overseas. And it's all the fault of our pharqquing out-of-control federal government.

The same goes for Propofol. A drug that's used every day in every operating room in the country. Want some?? You have to get it from Israel or Sweden. It's no longer made in the USA.

Switch to a .22 to the temple, or .38, since .22s are hard to come by as well. Problem solved. Death rows should be cleaned out.

Cheers!

CB Shorts?

They are quiet too.

Press release from CCI:

We're no longer selling our ammunition to state department of corrections as we do not agree with the use of our product to carry out death sentences.

The costs of appeals are deliberately kept high by anti-death penalty activists for the express purpose of making life without parole more attractive to people who would otherwise be in favor of the death penalty.

The answer is to shorten the appeals process and make it less expensive. For example, stop making it necessary for defense attorneys to be "death penalty qualified."

As to Isaac's comment about the successful work being done by the Innocence Project, I think a lot of concerns can be addressed by tightening up the kind and quality of the evidence used to convict someone in a capital case. For example a new rule that says if the only evidence tying a defendant to a murder is a jailhouse snitch, then no death penalty.

The answer to the high cost of appeals is to challenge the appellate process itself, not just suck it up and pay.

We've had that rule a long time in Texas, and not just for capital cases. An witnesses testimony must be corroborated by other evidence. If I recall correctly, sexual assault of a child is the exception.

Russia uses just one bullet placed specifically behind the head ,as do many other sensible Nations.

Instead of changing my post, I'll apologize here and say I wrote it hastily. I think in just about every state, if a guy walks into a police station and says I saw A kill B, without any other evidence at all, then this probably isn't going to lead anywhere.

What we all see sometimes, though, is a case where the prosecution's other evidence is such, that without the testimony of the snitch, there is just about no chance for a conviction.

So, I edit the above to something along the lines of "the only persuasive evidence" being a jailhouse snitch, in the context of death penalty cases.

Gotcha...and that does happen.

I too think of life with no possibility of parole is preferable to the 10-25 year long process we often have now. I think for many families, the constant reminder of their tragedy as the endless appeals play on and on, better to stick the convict in a cell and forget about them.

The current process stinks for a bunch of reasons, its cruel to the family of the victim, more expensive than incarceration, so prolonged that it looses any deterrent value it might have and often brings added notoriety to the criminals so sentenced. Add to that that its application often has a political component.

Executing a condemned man over 60 or so and who has been on death row for 30 plus years does nothing for me any longer.

Executing Charles Manson tomorrow, were it a possibility, would now illicit very little emotion from me. 35 years ago, I'd have paid good money to watch it take place.

In the next 15 years, I'll likely feel the same about Scott Peterson.

If we can't execute a condemned man within 7 years, the death sentence should be commuted to life without parole,imo.

Well, there could be hope on the horizon (depending on where you sit).

"States consider reviving old-fashioned executions

ST. LOUIS (AP) � With lethal-injection drugs in short supply and new questions looming about their effectiveness, lawmakers in some death penalty states are considering bringing back relics of a more gruesome past: firing squads, electrocutions and gas chambers."

Whole article here: http://home.cableone.net/news/read/article/ap-states_consider_reviving_oldfashioned_ex-ap

I tend to agree, though I lean more toward an immediate appeal and immediate execution when an appeal is denied. Victims need closure.

Yep, five 170 grain bullets in the chest at 20feet out of five 30-30s. Followed up by a 9mm 147 gr to the back of the head. I know it works every time, seen it many times in RVN. Never seen a VC survive that treatment.

Victims need closure.
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Couldn't agree with you more,Pat.

I just don't see the good in 20 year old victims and their circle of influence obtaining closure when the victim is 60 or older and the circle has long since passed.

In light of the recent Supreme Court decision that ruled life sentences for juveniles unconstitutional (cruel and unusual), how long after banning capital punishment do you feel someone would try to make the case that life sentences for adults are ALSO unconstitutional, somehow depriving them of the chance to be "rehabilitated"??

They got 30-30's in Viet Nam? Huh.

I vote that we have .gov issue a contract to Greg for him to build a shiny new guillotine for each state's primary prison.

I could go on with a few more desirable locations, but it would not be PC, and NSA is reading this.

All this BS when rope is available at every Hardware store and it is recyclable?