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and we got a Georgia storm last night...somehow we all made it to work even with all the Texan and Lousyanna and other southern workers up here...they learnt!

Ever seen a parked tractor trailer rig blown over in a parking lot?

The OTR truckers are normally the ones to start the pile up..As for your ice being different, well OK..Nearly every road out here besides the interstate is under ice most of the winter. But I'm sure folks who drive in those conditions every day dont have a clue, right?

Those pics are harsh! prayers sent.

You need to CALM DOWN,.....maybe go have a nap.

You're WAY over the line, posting this kinda' retarded nonsense in defense of some idiots that are Licensed, and trusted to KNOW better.

"OTR Drivers",.........not bloody likely, for what looks like a NORMAL day's weather in a vast region of this continent,....EVERY Winter.

Retired heavy hauler, that is 26 wheels and 105,500 GVW. Drove the passes into BC and AB. Have driven for days without seeing a black road. Drove on black ice across those same mountain passes. Spent at least a thousand miles on the slush and ice in those pictures. Never in a ditch, never had to be towed, never had a moving violation.

The trick is I did it all the time. Learned to drive in those conditions. Not fair to expect folks who don't see that kind of weather but once every five or so years to drive the same way.

How many time do truckers on a southern rout hang iron? I have done it six times in one day and that is chaining six drive tires and two or more drags. Only takes about fifteen minutes if you know what you are doing. Not a sanctimonious expert, gust know what I am talking about and not convinced those trucks pictured were experienced snow and ice drivers.

I went on a spur of the moment pronghorn hunt a few years ago..Great timing, it took me around 5 hours to go from Rock Springs to Sinclair, one big sheet of ice..Tho not as slick as Mississippi ice i'm sure..Alltho it was slick enough I could physically push my F350 PSD sideways on it, learned that when I pulled over to piss..I'd say thats pretty slick.

There was another time that an early snow storm shut down south pass on september 15th, I made it thru the gate on the lander side, but when I made Farson the gate was down and a line of tourists were screaming bloody murder..One lady at the gas station thought it was bad enough for the national guard to be called out.

Must suck to be so dependent on others.

This picture was taken the next morning on a neighborhood street. This is pretty much what every single square inch of roadway in North Georgia looked like 3 hours after the snow started falling - a sheet of ice that's anywhere from a half inch thick to an inch in a half.



Normally, they just close the schools if the forecast is for more than a dusting of snow. The forecast predicted a light dusting of snow and expected nothing of significance until after 4PM. Instead it started snowing heavily at 11am and it started sticking an hour later. All the school boards decided to let out schools - add 1.5 million cars, what could possibly go wrong.

You rarely if ever get snow that doesn't turn to a sheet of ice. Also, good you don't break out the plows we don't HAVE the plows. This city has grown from 2.5m people in 1980 to 6m in 2014. The majority of the populace are transplants from the Midwest and Northeast who have spent many years in cold climates. We've had many snows where it's nothing, just a powedered dusting and there are no incidents. This time was totally different, pure ICE almost immediately. We hear the same crap year after year from newbies to the area about how they can drive in it with no problems and quite a few of them get in accidents too, sometimes by their own doing other times from an out of control car.

I lived in Michigan in '98-'99 myself. Drove in thick snow plenty of times. The ice in Atlanta on Tuesday was nothing at all like anything I've ever driven in Michigan, Colorado, Montana, or Wyoming. You can have solid ice, I'll stay home.

People died, interstates gridlocked literally for 24 hours and people had to sleep in cars in Birmingham and Atlanta because of all the wrecks big rigs that couldn't be moved and there simply was no way to reroute people. Kids had to sleep at school and some were trapped on buses miles from home until the wee hours of the morning.

I see nothing comedic or wimpy about people's suffering but then again I saw it, yanked people out of ditches all day long, and shuttled stranded people home as opposed to armchair quarterbacking from a small town 2000 miles away.

Maybe so, but there are some mavericks out there, and they cause lots of trouble..Aint talking out my azz here, I drove wrecker for a few years, a famous hill close to here called rattlesnake is a killer, and usually someone bare footing up or down it too fast.

I do agree with Scott tho, those trucks in the pics dont look like an OTR rig during the winter months.

Yep...South Pass can be rather sporty in winter. I hunt antelope east and south of Farson. Got snowed in in Rock Springs the year I sent my oldest of to the Marine Corps. Youngest son and I went antelope hunting and passed on 2 good bucks because it was raining...little did we know....

Uh that was here this morning....with a little fresh snow on top of it...my wife drives 50 miles to work What I bolded in your post is comedic..people crash, wreck, get stuck because of their own stupidity...simple as that. Laws of physics haven't changed since the beginning of time. Armchair quarterbacking? You are a part time comedian ? Don't give up your day job......

Many drivers who have 4wd think it is the key to going (and, it may be) but they don't realize it usually gives little or no assist with stopping, and that is where most of the problems occur. Folks just drive too fast for the conditions and usually that will get you in the ditch, or worse.

Had to drive in most varieties of winter stuff early life in PA and later in the PNW and mountain west, and I feel that the quick developing sheet ice causes extra problems for most people. However, experience driving in such stuff, and the seat of the pants wisdom most sensible folks gain by doing it, makes a big difference when the conditions get so bad.

The average person in the southeast doesn't have such experience and, in the Atlanta situation, it seems clear that not much wisdom was applied to either prep or driving. Seemingly they can't conceive of the idea of sitting somewhere and staying off of the roads in a storm, and a whole lot of them could not figure out how to drive so they could stop as needed. Their blaming/complaining about the government guys is a lousy excuse for weak individual performance.

I do know what the hell I am talking about. Been there, done that, lived to tell about it.



My truck on the Crowsnest Pass. Google it.

You absolutely had to be here to actually appreciate the severity. It was literally a sheet of ice and gridlock. I know folks at Blue who didn't get home for 24 hours and many who actually slept in their cars.

Just think millions of fair weather folks dropped into the North Pole with their cars and SUV's.

Plows were of no use. If anything, they made it worse.

I remember the first time I came down the hill on I80 into Salt Lake in the winter. Every bridge was like a carnival ride with 45,000 pounds of bottled water helping me along.

I admit, trying to get around ATL or Birm in an ice storm would be nearly impossible..hell its nearly impossible in good weather.

Birmingham would be a special nightmare with all the hills, some pretty good slopes in that city.

I haven't heard anybody mention sand and salt? You don't plow ice, you sprinkle sand and salt on it.....

So you drove on a crowded interstate with 1.5 million other cars this morning trying to get home so their kids aren't trapped at school or alone mostly in passenger cars with summer tires? Sorry - I call bullshit on that...

So youse guys don't know the coefficient of friction reduces with ice? Uh that was here this morning....with a little fresh snow on top of it...my wife drives 50 miles to work Neanderthals....

Scott, they have a "death counter" road sign on that stretch now, I cant remember what its up to this year, but it gives you the pucker factor going down that canyon.

We have common ground,......I owned and operated a Towing and Recovery outfit in Alberta.

Know Roger's Pass WELL,......
Lake Louise
Sunshine
Kananaskis
Scott Lake Hill, West of Calgary,....etc.


WTF were the Ga. HIGHWAY PATROL,.....and WTF did they not CLOSE the highways , immediately the conditions went that bad, or more savvy-like ....BEFORE ?

Poor management, this.

Note that I did not say government,........THAT is what CAUSES this kinda' chit.

GTC