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I've shot targets out to 600 but have recently gotten an itch to try 1k. I'm shooting 178 grn Amax (bc .495) about 2,700fps w/ 24" Krieger. I know the gun and load are up to the challenge, however my scope isn't. I have a 4-16x50 Monarch that only has 40 moa of adjustment. After adding the 20moa base and finding my 100 yd zero, I've only got about 31moa left.

My question: Would it be possible for me to shoot 155's (bergers or scenars) fast enough to get to 1,000 yds without going over 31moa?

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Give JBM ballistics a try. It will provide you with the info you're looking for.

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I shoot 155gr Scenar's at 1000 with 26 MOA out of my 308 GAP.

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Even done 1K with the 125g NBT over HBL-C2 in a 308 (24 in. bbl @~3200 fps) with less than 30 MOA.

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You could get some burris signature rings with the offset inserts and give yourself some more MOA to play with.

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You can get as much as another 40 moa with the Burris Signature rings and offset inserts. I purchased the combination set which comes with .005", .010", and .020" offset inserts.

Depending on ring spacing, and if I remember the facts correctly, each .001" offset is good for about 1 moa.


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Thanks guys

I'm going to do a little research on the Burris rings. It sounds like they may be the ticket.

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
You can get as much as another 40 moa with the Burris Signature rings and offset inserts. I purchased the combination set which comes with .005", .010", and .020" offset inserts.

Depending on ring spacing, and if I remember the facts correctly, each .001" offset is good for about 1 moa.


Take the inverse tangent of (offset/spacing) to get degrees, then multiply by 60 to get minutes of angle.

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The other problem you will run into is running into the transsonic zone, so you will be better off with a 30 moa load. You can get pretty close with a Scenar or better if you push it hard enough. You might have to hold on the top of the black square, but that's close enough.


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Originally Posted by Huntr
I shoot 155gr Scenar's at 1000 with 26 MOA out of my 308 GAP.


How hard are you pushing those?


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2850 fps

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I can easily get 2950 with Varget or TAC and 155's in my 24" barreled .308.



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I was getting to 1000 with 30 moa, running the 155 Scenar 2800 fps, at 4500' elevation. This was a 20.5" barrel.

Down near sea level 33-34 moa migh be needed at 2800 fps MV. If you can push MV up to 2900 or so, you might get there at 30-31 moa. Looks like it will be close.

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I would look at the Scenar, Bergers full bore or Sierra Palma (2156) all in 155gr. If you can achieve 2850 fps they all perform very well.

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Good stuff guys thanks a lot. As soon as I get my hands on some 155's, I'm going to give them a go.

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The 208 amax will get you pretty close if you can drive it close to 2600. It's possible with RL-17. I've done it with about that much adjustment but I was running from a 200 yard zero so that's why I think it'll get you close but not quite there.

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