[quote=Crow hunter} I know illuminated reticles are the fad now but I don't care for them. I don't want to have to worry about turning it on before I shoot. [/quote]
One great feature on the VX-R scopes is even tho the ill' reticle is turned ON , It automatically turns itself OFF when the rifle is immobile for a period of time, But also automatically turns ON again when the rifle is moved ever so slightly !
The Firedot #4 is a great scope as recomended above , as well as the Ballistic Fire Dot Reticle which I have decided to buy.
All my Big Game Rifles for the past 50 years have had large (4" & 3") Dots in them , The BEST reticle of all in a non illuminated scope. In "failing" light the illuminated is the way to go .
BTW Duplex reticles give me fits,I have never been one to accept something forced on me . When that Duplex first came out ,That was all you could find. I Hate them more than you hate Illuminated !
Rich