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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...actory-reject-united-auto-workers-union/July 31, 2012: An employee works on a Passat sedan at the Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga, Tenn.AP CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. � Workers at a Volkswagen factory in Tennessee have voted against union representation, a devastating loss that derails the United Auto Workers union's effort to organize Southern factories. The 712-626 vote released late Friday stunned many labor experts who expected a UAW win because Volkswagen tacitly endorsed the union and even allowed organizers into the Chattanooga factory to make sales pitches. ADVERTISEMENT The UAW for decades has tried without success to organize a foreign-owned plant in a region that's wary of organized labor. The loss now makes it even harder for the union to recruit members at another Southern factory. "If they can't win this one, what can they win?" asked Art Schwartz, a former General Motors labor negotiator who now is a consultant in Ann Arbor, Mich. UAW President Bob King, in a 2011 speech to workers, said the union has no long-term future if it can't organize the Southern plants. King, however, stuck to statements he made earlier that the union would seek a vote and respect any decision made by workers. "While we certainly would have liked a victory for workers here, we deeply respect the Volkswagen Global Group Works Council, Volkswagen management and IG Metall for doing their best to create a free and open atmosphere for workers to exercise their basic human right to form a union," King said in a statement.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Good for them and all the right-to-work states.
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They just kicked the devil in the nuts.
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Obamacare has ruined their chances of getting really great health benefits, and the government sets limits on what can be contributed to a 401k. Why pay tons in union dues in hopes of getting maybe getting some modest salary increases, at best??
How long until the UAW can hold another vote?? Guess they'll have some arm-twisting to do in the meantime. If only they had card-check, then they'd know who's arm to twist/who to threaten.....
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I worked union all my life, never had to kiss an ass or suck a dick, retired at 56 with 50% of my salary in pension and benefits.
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I worked union all my life, never had to kiss an ass or suck a dick, retired at 56 with 50% of my salary in pension and benefits. Well, congratulations. I'm sure all the workers coming after you hope the ponzi scheme survives for at least one more generation. Many of the union municipal employees of the city of Detroit weren't so lucky.
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Worked private heavy industry, we took our earned share of the profits. The health of the company was number one in our books, not the stereotypical union of slack asses you may have heard about. As far unions dues go in our local show up for half the meetings get a 50% discount on dues. It ain't for pussies.
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Good for them and the State of TN
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I worked union all my life, never had to kiss an ass or suck a dick, retired at 56 with 50% of my salary in pension and benefits. Maybe you should ask around and find out what you've been missing...
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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Unions are nothing but sub governments. If we don't trust the US government why in the hell should we trust another bunch of [bleep] trying to make a living off MY money? Unions - nothing but money spent for promises.
Lot of $hit talkin about Tennesseanans on the fire but seems to me us hillbillies are smarter than we sound. Y'all take care now ya hear.
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just more evidence the unions continue to lose power and influence.
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I am not anti- union. However, the UAW has become a huge gorilla on US auto manufacturers back. One could consider the unions MAY have outlived their usefulness. I too draw a union pension. As a construction worker, I realized early on that one must be in a union , if in the construction industry, for max. advantage. Many employers implored me to leave the union, as I was always management. Now, the great imbalance comes from government unions. Even the poster child for the dems, FDR, realized the DANGER to unionize government workers. Case, in point, Wisconsin has a budget surplus, first since the dinosaurs croaked, because Walker trimmed their collective bargaining power. Good for the VW workers. We will not see a balance of any sort until the pols that bargain with the unions are not in bed with the union. Cisco
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now send vw back to germany where they belong.
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SRW...... What about my Ducatis, and Moto Guzzis and Triumphs? Do I have to send them back too? Cisco
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I worked union all my life, never had to kiss an ass or suck a dick, retired at 56 with 50% of my salary in pension and benefits. Me too... retired at 55 with more than 1/2 my salarie, whoever don't like it can go pfhukk themselves
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I have friends who work there. They told me most of the workers in favor of the union were Northern move ins who were in unions where they came from. I guess they couldn't figure that the unions back home were in large measure why their jobs went away.
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Obamacare has ruined their chances of getting really great health benefits, and the government sets limits on what can be contributed to a 401k. Why pay tons in union dues in hopes of getting maybe getting some modest salary increases, at best??
How long until the UAW can hold another vote?? Guess they'll have some arm-twisting to do in the meantime. If only they had card-check, then they'd know who's arm to twist/who to threaten..... Which is exactly the reason to avoid card check, at all costs.
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I worked union all my life, never had to kiss an ass or suck a dick, retired at 56 with 50% of my salary in pension and benefits. Maybe you should ask around and find out what you've been missing...
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