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This is where the problem really lies. Well said.

Reminds me of the Gun Owners here in MN. Driving their big ass 4x4's with gun rack in the back window, and bumper stickers galore. Bumper stickers that say, Union Worker for Obama, Buck Fush, Franken for Senate, and Right in the Middle of all this Socialist propaganda is an NRA sticker. Now how [bleep] is that? About as [bleep] as 70% of CT voting for Obama and Company then crying for help when their state turn into a Sheet hole.

well our sheriffs do important stuff like transport prisoners, they have no arrest powers

much talk of us being outnumbered, and there's some basis in fact for that, but organization and education are the keys as has been pointed out by other posters.

but right is right, and we have the Constitution on our side.


look at the black civil rights movement, what percentage of our population is black? but through organization, a strong collective voice and peaceful demonstration, much legislation was enacted to ensure that civil liberties were granted regardless of race.

same with the gays, a tiny percentage of Americans whether you go with the outrageous (to my mind) claim of 20% to something more that seems reliable of less than 10%, that now we have pending legislation or passed legislation that regardless of sexual orientation those folks are to be treated as equals.

whether you're for or against either one of those two groups, the fact remains that through organization and a collective voice, they've made great strides for their causes despite the odds.


bottom line is the squeaky wheel gets the grease


as Travis pointed out, albeit in slightly different language (grin) it's TIME for gunowners to start squeaking and squealing

granted there's a percentage of gunowners that fall in with the thought that no one needs a black rifle or normal capacity mags for those type weapons.

but they need to be educated that there is indeed a need for people to have those type weapons.

certainly if I lived near the border like crossfireoops and others in that part of the country I believe it would be prudent to be armed with a high capacity weapon.

same with the folks that endured Katrina and the ensuing looting.

how are you to successfully to defend your home or store from a gang of looters with Joe Biden's double barreled shotgun in those moments when the resources of our LEO are stretched to the breaking point or due to distance such as along the border are too far away to provide timely help?

better to start squeaking and squealing to see if we can get some relief from this type of legislation.

again as Travis, and others, have pointed out, armed confrontation will be the detriment to preserving our rights

perhaps there may indeed come a time when that becomes necessary, but if we don't exhaust all peaceful remedies before doing so then we've failed as to what it means to be a law abiding citizen from my view.

no reason in the world that law abiding citizens shouldn't be allowed to arm themselves with technology that gives them a fighting chance against daunting odds.

but we'll need to form a collective voice and presence to educate folks of our God given right to do so.

best of luck Conn.! hope you take the fight to them on your capitol steps

I am all for Travis' ideas. Tell me where to start and I will show up if at all possible.

You need to do a few simple things and it will help.

1- Ditch your contract cell phones and get a "Smart Talk" or trac phone. I call them "Minute Man phones". Don't tie it to a bank account, buy your minutes as you go. Without a name or bank account attached to the phone, the MASTERS won't be able to wiretap your phone, because on paper you don't have one.

2- develop a modern day "minute man" networks of trusted like minded people. People you can call when the MASTERS come "knocking". You need to give the MASTERS a choice when they come to arrest you or seize your weapons. Leave under their own free will, or be like CUSTER. I have a circle of friends that have said all they need is a call from me and they will come ready for duty. Picture 50 friends surrounding the cops and all carrying.

3- get a list of lawyers who are willing to work for percentages and file CIVIL RIGHTS lawsuits against any officer or official that arrests subjects and seizes their private property. Civil rights lawsuits against police and others requires the OFFICER to pay his way in his defense. The PBA and municipalities by law are NOT allowed to spend money in civil rights lawsuits. If they have to risk everything they have, or will ever have, they may see the wisdom of turning a blind eye or not following bosses orders. If they risk their house, paycheck, freedom, family's wellbeing, bank account, and any future earnings, they might think twice about "just following orders".

4- find well spoken people to take the case to the public and let them pull back the curtains to shine the light of truth on the end goal of the officials.

5- stop buying ANYTHING that comes from Conn. and don't spend any money there. No guns from companies that won't move out [Stag, Mossberg, Colt, etc.], no traveling thru the state, no support AT ALL for anything having to do with Conn. [I have written Remington off and refuse to buy anything with their name on it}.


it's not much, but even these simple things may make a difference when it counts the most.

This thread just proves to me that it is all lost.

As has been mentioned, the wolf is at the door...the day we've all dreaded and nobody will do a darn thing but piss and moan behind their keyboards.

All the tough talk on here. Phhttt...

Folks it's over. This is just a small step toward what will happen nationwide and nobody will do a thing to stop it. If Connecticut can't find willing souls to help here, where they gonna find 'em?


The answer is, they won't. This thread just proves it.


So yeah, you guys in Connecticut, here's what the tough guys on the Campfire expect of you:



Of course, we won't lift a finger to help you, we'll just look at the pictures of you, 30 years later and remember what cowards we were, after all YOU voted for this.
By then we, nor our children, nor our grandchildren will any longer own guns, not that they did us any good anyway against tyranny.

All you have to do is get the gun owners together and threaten a credible "grassroots" rebellion at the polls. If you can't do that, nothing will help you until the Federal Government turns conservative.

Not much you or I can do for the citizens in CT that need to organize the citizens of CT.

The voice of a Washington state citizen isn't going to carry much weight in a CT based newspaper or CT based political headquarters.



Travis

That's true but I would be camping on the CT capital steps if it would help and I could afford it.

And exactly what state is that? You belittle others here, but no one sees where you speak from. Why hide? Is there a reason for your secrecy? Maybe you live in a state were things are going to hell, and you're not doing anything there either?

It will if You, Schrap and the NRA organize all gun owners to converge on the state of CT in protest.

Gunner

This is not true. Everyone has arrest powers.

FYI...I didn't miss that.

in an ideal world, it would seem CT citizens would start there, organizing their own.

while I like dmsbandit's ideas on the mobile phones, I'm not in favor of organizing a militia at this point to come and surround LEO

I think that plays right into the libs hands of trying to portray gunowners as "bloodthirsty, can't wait to bust a cap in someone's azz, fiends"

firearms are one of the most useful tools ever created, but they are or should be reserved for the gravest extreme, to jump the gun (ouch bad pun) and use them prior to exhausting legal remedies and peaceful protest is a grave tactical error imo. YMMV

organized peaceful demonstrations are what's needed along with mass education.

I hear talk all the time about the NRA and how it needs more members, 5 million gun owners send in how much money? Where's the ads run on Connecticut TV? Related to another thread, what part of the funds collected by the NRA go to administrative costs versus actually getting the word out where it's needed?

maybe it's time for the NRA members to put some heat on that body to do some good?

I would think gun stores in CT, would be a great place to start about trying organize gun owners in CT, to fund and fight anti freedom legislation.

Wish WB Ruger was still alive.

Gunner

Freedom is messy and painful. Liberals are cowards who want to be protected and need big government to do it...

I never said to shoot LEO, I said give them a choice. AT concord the British were given a choice and they decided on fighting. One LEO pulls a trigger, it becomes a self-defense issue and they lose. LEO lost the Weaver and WACO legal battles after they opened fire first, and LEO will lose again if the pull the first trigger.

As far as the NRA, I know they and the local affiliate {New York state rifle and pistol association(NYSRPA)] has spent nearly $500,000 so far fighting the NY SAFE ACT in court and they plan to spend over $1.5 million by the time it gets to SCOTUS. NYSRPA has doubled their membership since the NY SAFE ACT past last January. They now have the largest NRA membership in the US.

WINNING, CONQUERING, and living through the scramble holds more appeal to me.

GTC

I think the Feds are going to love this thread.

You should suck em off quick