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Thank you for giving the background on that location.


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What's stupid? The city has a j-walking ordinance. Nobody has campaigned to remove it so it's the law. When a person violates the law, he must identify himself or be arrested. It's that simple. She refused to obey the law and those were the consequences. If you don't like a law, take steps to have it repealed or leave. She did neither.



Just because its a law doesn't make it a just law.


Then you should trot your ass down to city hall and lobby for the repeal of said law. Not break it at will or condemn those that enforce it.




You're right. Screw the fact our elected officials, law enforcement, judiciary etc. etc. swear an oath to uphold and defend the constitution. Just because I am forced to pay the taxes for their salaries, why should I have any expectation of them actually following through on that oath. Crap man, that whole separation of powers is way overrated, they're just doing their jobs, rights? Just like pres. barry?


As much as I dislike ol Skeeter, this is one instance where he has nothing to do with it. Jaywalking is a local ordinance.
That's why I said "trot your ass down to CITY HALL and lobby for a change in the ordinance.
Didn't your daddy ever tell you that two wrongs don't make a right.

Besides,,,,, we all know that Skeeter's the only one allowed to disobey laws he doesn't agree with.

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Austin into the back of a police car because she crossed against the light, i


That is not why she was thrown into the back of the police car, this instead shows somebody's bias.







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The attitude down there on "The Drag" area is Pedestrians Always Have the Right of Way.


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Originally Posted by rost495
I've been by that corner a few times too... as a driver I EXPECT a college kid to step out or run out... It is a good place to enforce it for sure.

RE teh WE don't need this or that protection from SBTCO...WE is a large word, from your post it should read I don't want that protection.

And this doesn't mean I don't agree with some of what you said.

OTOH I posted earlier, if she causes me to hit her, or someone else etc.... rare for there to be victimless crime.

And would is it still theft if you break into the bank at night while no one around and get away with the money without "endangering" anyone else. I'd venture most would still say its a crime.


Rost,

If the law worked so good then you wouldn't have the need to "Expect" college students to step out in front of you while driving there. I doubt very much that the homeless in Austin are somehow more disciplined in their restraint from breaking the law than other areas of the country as well.

As to the bank scenario, I've already posted the fact that laws against theft,property damage etc. have been "on the books" for centuries. A person doesn't have to be physically injured or even present to be victimized.


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FieldGrade,

Are not your local constabulary and judiciary members required to swear and oath to defend the state and fed constitution?


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Originally Posted by SBTCO
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I've been by that corner a few times too... as a driver I EXPECT a college kid to step out or run out... It is a good place to enforce it for sure.

RE teh WE don't need this or that protection from SBTCO...WE is a large word, from your post it should read I don't want that protection.

And this doesn't mean I don't agree with some of what you said.

OTOH I posted earlier, if she causes me to hit her, or someone else etc.... rare for there to be victimless crime.

And would is it still theft if you break into the bank at night while no one around and get away with the money without "endangering" anyone else. I'd venture most would still say its a crime.


Rost,

If the law worked so good then you wouldn't have the need to "Expect" college students to step out in front of you while driving there. I doubt very much that the homeless in Austin are somehow more disciplined in their restraint from breaking the law than other areas of the country as well.

As to the bank scenario, I've already posted the fact that laws against theft,property damage etc. have been "on the books" for centuries. A person doesn't have to be physically injured or even present to be victimized.


Pretty simple, laws even though they are on the books, are not all enforced. If you don't enforce them, its like they aren't there.

First person or three do it, no reprocussion other than getting run over and killed possibly, and the word gets out. I'm lazy so I will just cross where ever when ever.

The irony to me on this on, she was exercising... she didn't need to take a short cut and you can jog in place till you have the ROW...

We were in Baltimore almost a year ago. My wife got tired of me hollering at the idiots crossing at wrong places and times...

So I actually heard about this jaywalking issue becoming a bigger issue before this all happened It was on the local news. Not like folks didn't know it wasn't going to be enforced more.

And of course there are so many laws on the books, and so few police, its hard to be everywhere all the time.


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She had "toe shoes" and looked like one of the Hanson brothers.

This is a non-issue.
[Linked Image]

Her sunglasses on the ground in front of her almost looked like two giant snails head butting each other.

I'm beginning to enjoy this far-sightedness. Livens up the browsing.




Those phat ass cops could stand to do some exercising, disgraceful.

The downtown area is filling up fast with well to do hipsters living
in high rise condos. City demographics have changed. The piss pants
schizo-homeless and winos have been displaced.

One day soon one of them diabetic garbage men in blue is going to kill
some connected guys son or daughter over some trifle. That little jogger
gal is the tip of the iceberg.







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1- The chief is an epic dumbazz for throwing out the "sexual assaults" comment when responding to a question about a jay walker. WTF?

2- How in the Sam Hell did that girl get caught by those two pudding asses? She should of hung 'em the bird and kept jogging. They would of stroked out in a block...max.


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Originally Posted by SBTCO
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
What's stupid? The city has a j-walking ordinance. Nobody has campaigned to remove it so it's the law. When a person violates the law, he must identify himself or be arrested. It's that simple. She refused to obey the law and those were the consequences. If you don't like a law, take steps to have it repealed or leave. She did neither.

We've had a number of joggers and bikers hit by cars here. Usually the reason is loud music and not paying attention. Bikers are the worst because they ride in traffic lanes and never look back. They're oblivious to what's around them. They're also going faster so they hit harder.



Just because its a law doesn't make it a just law.
I suppose if you think guv should baby sit everyone and arrest anyone for "potential" regardless of the severity of the "crime" would be one way of looking at it. I prefer just constitutional laws, liberty and personal responsibility.
Nobody said it's just but it's still the law at this time. We have mechanisms for repealing unjust laws and until that's done, it's still the law. In this country, you don't repeal a law by ignoring it. You take steps to have it officially repealed. She obviously hasn't done that (but maybe she will now).


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
That's all she had to do....."My name is _______".


"Where is your yellow Star of David Juden?? You refused to identify yourself? We have a train waiting for your type of social deviant."


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I've had a change of heart. Jaywalking laws are unconstitutional and stupid.

This is a much better solution...
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...and who says they DON'T have jaywalking laws?


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Were you deprived of oxygen at birth?


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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I'm just glad he didn't name me specifically.


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oh to be thankful and grateful, that's the ticket Lt.


as an aside if you get promoted past Lieutenant, that's gonna play hades with us around here


I certainly hope they consider such during your performance reviews whistle


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
What's stupid? The city has a j-walking ordinance. Nobody has campaigned to remove it so it's the law. When a person violates the law, he must identify himself or be arrested. It's that simple. She refused to obey the law and those were the consequences. If you don't like a law, take steps to have it repealed or leave. She did neither.

We've had a number of joggers and bikers hit by cars here. Usually the reason is loud music and not paying attention. Bikers are the worst because they ride in traffic lanes and never look back. They're oblivious to what's around them. They're also going faster so they hit harder.



Just because its a law doesn't make it a just law.
I suppose if you think guv should baby sit everyone and arrest anyone for "potential" regardless of the severity of the "crime" would be one way of looking at it. I prefer just constitutional laws, liberty and personal responsibility.
Nobody said it's just but it's still the law at this time. We have mechanisms for repealing unjust laws and until that's done, it's still the law. In this country, you don't repeal a law by ignoring it. You take steps to have it officially repealed. She obviously hasn't done that (but maybe she will now).


Save your breath RC.
SBTCO clearly has no desire to change the laws when he can simply set behind his keyboard and bitch about em.

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The picture you posted above looks very much like a street scene in India, New Delhi maybe. And yes, they do have jaywalking laws there too. Working out mighty well.

But I don't know, maybe the runner chick had it easy. Better to to just beat the shyte out of 84 yr. old guys for the same infraction.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/kang-wong-jaywalking-ticket-nypd/2014/01/21/id/548037

AS to your misguided perception/attack of my theoretical lack of oxygen at birth, it only lowers you to the level of progressive socialists who have failed to bolster their argument but if you must, forge ahead.





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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
But in the absence of real scandal, people will find something to rage over. In this case it appears that "something" is a princess being told no and then pitching a fit.


And there you have it.


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'Tis hard to know the full deal - maybe she brought most of it onto herself, maybe the police went overboard - maybe both - such things seem to happen every day. If so, can't rage over that. But, that chief telling citizens they should be glad that his troops didn't sexually molest anyone - that calls for some hard critique.


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Looks like another failure in responsible and professional law enforcement from the street to the chief.

If any of those who believe this is a non-issue would have been sitting on that sidewalk with Austin's finest on either side, that perception would change. Of course, most think that not possible since they are law abiding folk. That's just stinking thinking. Unless you're boss hog of some podunk, no one is immune to power gluttony and it's abuses in these United States. You just haven't experienced it yet.


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