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mystro-----I've got Federal's 000 buck in my Poly PD Judge. The Judge is my nite stand gun. My Poly PD Judge has a little wider "pattern" than your Governor----but I'm happy with it.

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Originally Posted by deflave
Just a novelty piece.

Travis

Some said smokeless powder was just a passing fad... cool

BTW, I'm on your side in this argument... grin

I got rid om my .410, Thunder 5 gun. It was just too clunky and heavy for any practical use, IMO.

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I'd be curious to know what kind of velocity those 000 Buckshot loads are getting from the revolvers. I can understand why folks are not putting their chronographs out in front of those loads though.

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Very hard to chronograph but I did managed to get it done. Federal had 1200fps on the box two years ago and now has 850fps on the box. I knew they were not going 1200fps and chronoed them out of a Judge Public Defender that I owned at the time at 850-870fps. Not bad for 290grains of lead from a snub nose.

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I'd be curious to know what kind of velocity those 000 Buckshot loads are getting from the revolvers. I can understand why folks are not putting their chronographs out in front of those loads though.


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I'd bet 1200 is probably about right in a typical .410 shotgun.


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

- Between all the varieties of 45acp, 45Colt, and 410; a person might be likely to score SOME type of ammo it could be fed when supplies are lean.


My youngest boy bought a Governor, and only then priced factory ammo for it.

He didn't shoot it much.

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The specific shotpistol ammo makes a big difference. I bought some typical #4 shot from SG a few years back and it spread way to fast. The Federal Personal Defense #4 holds tighter and is very effective on grouse and gray squirrels at 12-15 yards. In the end its still only a 410 and shot doesn't go very much further.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

- Between all the varieties of 45acp, 45Colt, and 410; a person might be likely to score SOME type of ammo it could be fed when supplies are lean.


My youngest boy bought a Governor, and only then priced factory ammo for it.

He didn't shoot it much.

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Thing's a [bleep]' gimmick. Marketing it toward the self defense crowd is nothing short of total bullschit and the marketing of it as a viable hunting arm is also bullschit.



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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Yea, we heard ya the first time. Your not pheelin the shotpistol concept. I didn't think you were gonna buy one, try one, or even experiment with one, so your vast experience with one and opinion is well noted.
Originally Posted by deflave
Thing's a [bleep]' gimmick. Marketing it toward the self defense crowd is nothing short of total bullschit and the marketing of it as a viable hunting arm is also bullschit.



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I'm betting the Governor is a 1/4" revolver.


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So a single 000 buckshot round has 12% less weight and 15% less velocity than a 90 grain .380ACP round, in a non-expanding projectile. Just for conversation.


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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I'm betting with 63516 post you have waayy too much time on your hands..
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I'm betting the Governor is a 1/4" revolver.

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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
I think the carbine version (of the judge anyway) is neat.


I like the version where the rounds are tube fed rather than using a cylinder and it has a stock and a 28" twelve gauge barrel and an inertia driven semi-auto action.



hmmmm is that kinda like the El Camino's I've seen that have more ground clearance, bigger payload area, etc. ?


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But there is 4 of them at the same time. Germans officers didnt have any problem with a 380 FMJ.
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
So a single 000 buckshot round has 12% less weight and 15% less velocity than a 90 grain .380ACP round, in a non-expanding projectile. Just for conversation.

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I know there are four. But a death of a thousand cuts isn't as dramatic as a machete to your noggin.


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Originally Posted by mystro
Yea, we heard ya the first time. Your not pheelin the shotpistol concept. I didn't think you were gonna buy one, try one, or even experiment with one, so your vast experience with one and opinion is well noted.


I prefer my opinions to be very well noted.



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Originally Posted by mystro
But there is 4 of them at the same time.


Does that mean they'd be good for deer and coyotes?



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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True, but four 380fmj shooting you in a 2" area all at the same time is a gonna get the job done. It also takes that 2" area and concitrates the entire area into a mess.
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I know there are four. But a death of a thousand cuts isn't as dramatic as a machete to your noggin.


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Coyotes close distances, sure. Deer? Who would purposely hunt deer with a 410 out side of a extreme survival situation.????? That said, I would hunt deer with a 22lr if I had to and get the job done every time. Shot placement is what kills deer, not caliber.
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Originally Posted by mystro
But there is 4 of them at the same time.


Does that mean they'd be good for deer and coyotes?



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Originally Posted by mystro
Coyotes close distances, sure. Deer? Who would purposely hunt deer with a 410 out side of a extreme survival situation.????? That said, I would hunt deer with a 22lr if I had to and get the job done every time. Shot placement is what kills deer, not caliber.


So they work on coyotes at "close distance" but they are a poor choice for deer and a better choice for deer would be the 22LR but at the same time a .410 fired out of a Governor is a viable defense round?

Gotcha.



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Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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