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Lets see your proof. You really believe you can load a 45LC shots shell with the same power and volume level as a 410????? Lets see the penitration tests????? Your whole argument was that you could do the same with a conventional revolver that you can do with a shot pistol. There is no way in hell you can. You will never get the power behind a unsupported shot shell. Not that I am personally a fan of the birdshot but the folks at Guns and Ammo has proven that in a carjacking situation, birdshot from a shotpistol shot under 9 feet is a very effective personal protection option getting enough volume of shot with 8-9" of ballistic gel penetration. Show me where you are getting a shot shell to penetrate 8" of ballistic gel???? Then there is the 000 buck at 16" of ballistic gel penetration issue.... I've loaded shot shells up for my 44mag. Great for snakes but no where near the level of a 410. But of course, I can shoot shotcapsules out of a regular revolver, and practically duplicate 2.5" .410 performance. Since we are putting up videos....check this one out: [video:youtube]wuYInjR3DGg[/video] Here's a pretty cool deal DocRocket posted a few years ago about making shotshells from 444 Marlin brass: 45 Colt "Magnum" Shotshells Soo...there's really nothing a shotvolver does better than a normal revolver, except for being able to use factory .410 ammo. BFD. JFC you are dense. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOAD THE 45 COLT WITH LARGER SHOT.
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Just my opinion, but for self defense it's a no brainer to run 45 ACP in it. Moon clips are awesome for quick reloads. ...but I've got little interest in the Governor as a self defense revolver or to shoot buckshot.
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Best goddamm pig head blower upper money can buy!
Keep the ranges around the 3yd line.
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I might add "people" head blower upper to that as well. It just depends how much rage you got to destroy your target. Best goddamm pig head blower upper money can buy!
Keep the ranges around the 3yd line.
Travis With a Governor, you can move back to 10 yards if you want and still give adequate cranial ventilation.
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With a Governor, you can move back to 10 yards if you want and still give adequate cranial ventilation. That truly is a classic photo. Travis
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That truly is a classic photo.
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Yep. A real revolver shoots those patterns at 50 yards
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Well let's see here. Similar sized shot fired from a wad carrying load, at similar velocity equals similar performance. Not that hard to figure out. I suppose I could go shoot some non-climate controlled, untested Ballistics Gel, and post the video on Youtube, but I have better things to do with my time.
Like I said earlier, the shot argument doesn't mean a darned thing, as it is an extremely poor self defense load. The "Kills a pig at 10 feet, must be good for self defense" argument is ludicrous.....I've killed pigs at similar distance with a 22 LR, so that must mean it's a top notch self defense weapon? Hardly.
Reference KevinGibson's earlier post about how hot shot loads work on people.
Funny thing about 24hourcampfire....when the vast majority of posters are diametrically opposed to a subject, there's usually good reason for it. Posters here have a lot of real world experience not garnered from Youtube videos...it might be a good idea for you to step back and heed some of their advice.
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Burden of proof is your responsibility. I put up when asked to.... When you blow a pigs head apart with a 22lr then it might be viable comparison. I suspect there's no amount of videos or ballistic gel proof regardless of how many independent sources that were given that you would concede you may be wrong. . Its a shame you are so closed minded. You ask for independent specs, you got em, you even have multiple videos. You are choosing to ignore them so at this point. Your done, done, and over with this topic.
Poking fun at something new and different is generally a common trait. When a majority does it in these settings is more herd mentality for entertainment purposes.
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That truly is a classic photo.
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Yep. A real revolver shoots those patterns at 50 yards I'll see your 50 and raise you 40yds. Travis
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When you blow a pigs head apart with a 22lr then it might be viable comparison. I suspect there's no amount of videos or ballistic gel proof regardless of how many independent sources that were given that you would coincide you may be wrong. . You ask for independent specs, you got em, you even have multiple videos. You are choosing to ignore them so at this point. Your done, done, and over with this topic.
Poking fun at something new and different is generally a common trait. When a majority does it in these settings is more herd mentality for entertainment purposes. Poking fun? Travis
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Not at one time though. I suspect even farther than 50 yards when carefully shot one at a time. Good shooting.
That truly is a classic photo.
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Yep. A real revolver shoots those patterns at 50 yards
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I see your 50 for 175. Story at Hornady.com. Hornady web site trophies. I go way back with Hornady (and Safariland) in my IPSC Limited class days as a sponsored shooter. Gunsite two times and the first IPSC sponsored shooter to use the 10mm in limited class in the 1990's. You all didn't think I just walked off the playground with a handgun did ya?????? Just cause I presented the merits of a shot pistol doesn't mean I am not a 1911 guy with a passion for handgun hunting. I said I have a extensive handgun collection and understand both sides of the shotpistol argument.
That truly is a classic photo.
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Yep. A real revolver shoots those patterns at 50 yards I'll see your 50 and raise you 40yds. Travis
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The 10mm in competition makes about as much sense as a revolver chambered in the .410.
Nice deer.
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Yea,... If you knew that a 180gr loaded to 1000fps is a damn near perfect IPSC Limited "Major Power" class and I was doing this pre 40S&W days. Now the 40S&W doing the same thing is now the norm. Don't talk about schit you have no idea about. My reputation on many other forums is well established and verified by other competitive shooters so explaining why the 10mm was so attractive is probably pointless. The 10mm in competition makes about as much sense as a revolver chambered in the .410.
Nice deer.
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Ok, no more talk about 10's or 40's.
What about that Governor? Can we still talk about that?
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Yea,... If you knew that a 180gr loaded to 1000fps is a damn near perfect IPSC Limited "Major Power" class and I was doing pre 40S&W days. Now the 40S&W doing the say thing is now the norm. Don't talk about schit you have no idea about. My reputation on many other forums is well established and verified by other competitive shooters so explaining why the 10mm was so attractive is probably pointless. The 10mm in competition makes about as much sense as a revolver chambered in the .410.
Nice deer.
Travis Okay, back to the Governor. Dang, mystro, 146 posts in a mere 20 days. You rock!
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I opened this thread to see if knowing what ammo worked best in the Governor would make me want to have one.
So far, no. But I'll continue checking in from time to time.
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I'm thinking about a Cabela's 20 gauge Howdah pistol, myself
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