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That should do the trick! (By levers, you mean lever-action rifles, no? Not the levers themselves. I'm pretty certain that the levers were simple low carbon, judging from how soft they are once you get through the case hardened skins, and the fact that they take case coloring so well.)

This is getting exciting! (I know, I gotta get a life!)

3 levers and a bolt gun.
Only going to check barrels and receivers.

That's great info right there. Can't wait. Way to go DJ!

Great! What a divers group we have.

The junkyard i go to has one also, the analyze in a few seconds, i think on the barrels they could check the muzzle which should be in the white,but im sure it will show traces of copper!! the bluing on the receivers may be a issue, might show up as ferrous oxide.

You could just take the butt stock off, should find some bare metal inside the tangs.

Use one with a pistol grip stock and you could ship it off to be copied while the metal testing is going on.

I am planning on taking gray rats......that might help too.

I would think if theres not a lot of bluing there would be no problem,those things are amazing ,they told me it cost $70,000 for the one they have.

Nuclear analyzers. Positive Material Identification (PMI). Your number sounds about right for an older model Don. I've heard somewhat lower numbers for newer versions but you're still talking tens of thousands.

This will be interesting to see what the results are.

Just to kick this down the road a little further - does anyone know if the Savage 99 barrels were autofrettaged?

I would doubt it!! i think it would be cost prohibitive.

good thread this .

norm

Didn't one of the published "tour of the factory" articles describe the barrels as being drilled? From the 40's or 50's I think. I don't have an electronic copy. I'll check and see if I have a hardcopy.

Well, here is what his machine showed.
The rifles:
Savage 1899A Ser #10.1xx -DOM 1899
Savage 1899TD Ser #1763xx-DOM 1916S
Savage 99RS Ser #3896xx-DOM 1939
Savage 20/26 Ser #125xx-DOM 1927?

Checked receiver and barrel on each rifle in approximately the same place. Some had nice blue, some gray rats.

Basically his machine showed the same in all 8 readings taken.
The top number was an alloy number-4472 and 98.5 Fe and the rest Mn.(Iron and manganese)

I am not a metal guy, so this is all Greek to me. Hopefully someone can make sense of all this.....

You know you got it bad, when we are discussing Savage Metallurgy!

Awesome!

dave

Somebody's got to be way smarter than me. (Which in and of itself wouldn't be difficult) But, nobody I am connected to in this machine shop has ever heard of 4472. I went to my oldest edition of Machinery's Handbook (20th edition) and visited the list of standard steels. It starts out at AISI No. 1015 and ends up with 94B30. NOWHERE on this list is 4472. Even wikipedia shows nothing. To answer this, I believe serious (maybe even destructive) testing would need to be done. Of course it's very possible one of you might have better resources available to come up with an answer.

I'll run this past my metallurgist friend tonight.

My friend did say he was not sure how his machine would work on a blued item. He also mentioned that completely bare metal is way more accurate.

His other testing machine did not show an alloy type, just metal content. Both machines read the same on metal content.

I could not find 4472 or any other alloys in that range on any google search either.

I am thinking, too, that one would have to test an unrestorable receiver to get a more definitive answer.

The old bluing is nothing more than rust isn't it? If so it shouldn't be an issue. Maybe.