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I keep hearing about terrible things are..

I had to have an electrician come to the house to wire in a new outlet for my new stove. $80 hr.

Had to have a plumber come not long ago. $80hr.

Get my boat engine a tune up. $90 hr.

Have a welder weld anything out of aluminum. $80 hr.

Seems like the trades are the place to be?

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$1200 to have a water heater installed. Although, I would up doing it myself with a contractor buddy at $40 an hour.

But yup I agree.


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My company required me to charge $95 per hour plus one way mileage, but I sure didn't get anywhere near that much.
Truck and fuel costs, all the support people, and a bunch of other stuff had to be paid out of that.


















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Well let's see, of the $80 an hour the person preforming the work got paid 10 an hour, the government got between 8 and 10 an hour in payroll taxes, The rest went into overhead and a little profit for the owner.

Not a whole lot of money there when you break it down.


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I'm a tradesman and can tell you that the actual workers only get paid a small piece of that pie. For instance, the company I work for charges $96/ hour for a service visit, but the employee might only get about $20/ hour plus very basic medical insurance. No optical or dental and no retirement or HSA, either.

Trades aren't a bad place to be for sure, but a guy isn't going to get rich doing it.


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Originally Posted by Tracks
My company required me to charge $95 per hour plus one way mileage, but I sure didn't get anywhere near that much.
Truck and fuel costs, all the support people, and a bunch of other stuff had to be paid out of that.


You forgot lawyers. smile


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Hell, a lawyer will cost you $250/alleged hour.

The plumber is a bargain.

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$80 an hour for a 8 hour work day.

$640 a day. Not a bad wage, if you ask me. Sure you have to pay taxes, but who doesn't? (ok, don't answer that)

Curious how much a .gov worker makes a day?

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Originally Posted by bruinruin
I'm a tradesman and can tell you that the actual workers only get paid a small piece of that pie. For instance, the company I work for charges $96/ hour for a service visit, but the employee might only get about $20/ hour plus very basic medical insurance. No optical or dental and no retirement or HSA, either.

Trades aren't a bad place to be for sure, but a guy isn't going to get rich doing it.


So, I'm curious what keeps a guy from branching out on his own, and charging a mere $60 an hour? You'd think people would be jumping at the chance to hire the guy?

Btw, all the guys I hired were independent. And when they ran for parts, which took a ridiculous amount of time, the clock was still ticking. I have a feeling I paid for a few coffee breaks.

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Originally Posted by bruinruin
I'm a tradesman and can tell you that the actual workers only get paid a small piece of that pie. For instance, the company I work for charges $96/ hour for a service visit, but the employee might only get about $20/ hour plus very basic medical insurance. No optical or dental and no retirement or HSA, either.

Trades aren't a bad place to be for sure, but a guy isn't going to get rich doing it.


Nope and neither do the owners from my experience.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
I keep hearing about terrible things are..

I had to have an electrician come to the house to wire in a new outlet for my new stove. $80 hr.

Had to have a plumber come not long ago. $80hr.

Get my boat engine a tune up. $90 hr.

Have a welder weld anything out of aluminum. $80 hr.

Seems like the trades are the place to be?
Unfortunately thats the price of doing business to make a small profit...figure in labor,gas,vehicle maintance,insurance,workmans comp, advertising ect. and not much left


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Btw, all the guys I hired were independent. And when they ran for parts, which took a ridiculous amount of time, the clock was still ticking. I have a feeling I paid for a few coffee breaks.


You were free to choose another contractor...free market and such.

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Scott nailed it here:

Originally Posted by bruinruin
I'm a tradesman and can tell you that the actual workers only get paid a small piece of that pie. For instance, the company I work for charges $96/ hour for a service visit, but the employee might only get about $20/ hour plus very basic medical insurance. No optical or dental and no retirement or HSA, either.

Trades aren't a bad place to be for sure, but a guy isn't going to get rich doing it.


So your numbers, corrected, are:


Originally Posted by Calvin
$80 $20 an hour for a 8 hour work day.

$640 $160 a day. Not a bad fantastic wage, if you ask me. Sure you have to pay taxes, but who doesn't? (ok, don't answer that)

Curious how much a .gov worker makes a day?


Anybody who runs a business will tell you that there is a HUGE difference between what's charged & what's made as profit.

HUGE.

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Believe me, I'm not complaining. I knew exactly what was going to happen, before it happened.

BTW, in a remote town of 1200, on an island, in Alaska, you often can't choose another contractor. And they know it....(grin)

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Amen to that!


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Believe me, I'm not complaining. I knew exactly what was going to happen, before it happened.

BTW, in a remote town of 1200, on an island, in Alaska, you often can't choose another contractor. And they know it....(grin)


Sounds like a business opportunity for you. grin

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Hell, a lawyer will cost you $250/alleged hour.

The plumber is a bargain.


I'm talking averaging their corporate cost in.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Believe me, I'm not complaining. I knew exactly what was going to happen, before it happened.

BTW, in a remote town of 1200, on an island, in Alaska, you often can't choose another contractor. And they know it....(grin)



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It's funny how everybody rails on the .gov workers for how much they make, but if you point out that a plumber charges $80 an hour to unclog a toilet for an old lady, then it's game on. (grin)

I do most stuff myself. Stuff I needs to be up to code for home resale I'd rather just pay somebody to do. And no, I'm not complaining, just making an observation.

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Originally Posted by efw
Scott nailed it here:

Originally Posted by bruinruin
I'm a tradesman and can tell you that the actual workers only get paid a small piece of that pie. For instance, the company I work for charges $96/ hour for a service visit, but the employee might only get about $20/ hour plus very basic medical insurance. No optical or dental and no retirement or HSA, either.

Trades aren't a bad place to be for sure, but a guy isn't going to get rich doing it.


So your numbers, corrected, are:


Originally Posted by Calvin
$80 $20 an hour for a 8 hour work day.

$640 $160 a day. Not a bad fantastic wage, if you ask me. Sure you have to pay taxes, but who doesn't? (ok, don't answer that)

Curious how much a .gov worker makes a day?


Anybody who runs a business will tell you that there is a HUGE difference between what's charged & what's made as profit.

HUGE.


So you're telling me that a guy with a van and 10k in tools couldn't make a good wage charging $80 an hour?

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