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I'd say #1 and #2 have a hell of a lot more to do with tacticool preppers and not big game hunting.

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Not in this household.


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I would rather go hunting for mule deer with a 308/155 Scenar than any 223 combo.


That said a 22-250 kicks ass.

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What'd you bust that hawg with last year? Was it your 300 WSM (grin)


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D, first buck deer with a 243!

190 yards, in 3-4' sage, took me 10-15 minutes to look where I thought it should be laying.
Got nervous, thought [bleep], shoulda just been shooting a 300WSM and it woulda been DRT....

I had walked around buck in a circle on the initial 'search' and didn't see it. Went back to where it 'should' be and it was there. Dropped at the shot, zero blood trail, perfect performance.



I'm still going back to the A7 300WSM this fall though just because.....grin

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That was an awesome deer! Just having a little fun....

I'd love to spend more time out there hunting.


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Dude, these cartridges discussions are always good...grin



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Originally Posted by Steelhead
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Maybe not, but it wasnt long ago fellas were standing in line for $2k AR's....

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Originally Posted by 16bore
I'd say #1 and #2 have a hell of a lot more to do with tacticool preppers and not big game hunting.


I was thinking the same thing

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When I first read the OP, my first thought was no way. It's the age of "western extreme", the long range hunter, you are a looooooooser if you aren't shooting a big boomer to a 1000. Then just reading the posts, I think it just depends on which site you are reading or most loyal to, will change or bend or mold your way of thinking.

There are ebbs and flows with everything. And people age and change.

I shot a .270 my whole bleeming life, killing all kinds of crap. It wasn't until I started reading hunting forums that I found out my core-lokts were garbage and my caliber was gay.

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I don't think it is a recent trend. A good friend of mine has used a 22-250 since the late 70's. Some ranchers we hunted with in the early 80's considered our 270's big guns.

I started using a 22-250 when the internet experts said it can't/should/wouldn't be done. When I knew different and had to prove it to myself to have actual real world experience.

My last few acquisitions have been 404 Jeffery, 375 H&H, and a 300 H&H being built.

I am going to get a 1:9 222 built next, but am truly confused by the rifle twist thread. confused Think I may load it to 22 LR levels to get around the scalpers. smile

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Originally Posted by shortactionsmoker


That's what I was getting at in my earlier post. Go to any hunting camp in my locale and you won't see many smaller cartridges. It's been that way for 30 years...

You'll see 7mags, 300 mags, 338's and 30-06's. The 270 is about the smallest thing you'll see and those guys get jazzed about it being marginal for whitetail deer.


This is pretty much what I've been seeing from several deer leases - even since 2000 - and I began deer hunting in 1972.

Over the years I've seen some 243s, **NO 223s**, 1 - 250 Savage, 1- 25-06, NOBODY carrying a 257 Roberts, few 6mm Rems, etc. you get the idea. I'm the only hunter I know personally who owns or knows what a 6.5 Swede is. I've told and shown some people and they say " a what?".

Mostly NOW and then 270s, 30-30s, 308s, 06s, 7 Mags and 300 Mags. 1- 338 WM.

So the answer to the OP is- from posters here -

The only ones I know of/about going 'smaller' are on here, and

No they're about the same as it's been for years.


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Originally Posted by jwall

The only ones I know of/about going 'smaller' are on here, and


That's pretty much what I see too. Last year WI did away with the last of the deer shotgun zones. Several people inquired about what rifle/chambering I thought they should buy and every one of them already had 300 mag on the brain. crazy


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My gravitation toward smaller calibers results from getting older and knowing recoil isn't fun anymore.....

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The closer you get to the east coast, the bigger the cartridge you need.



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SAS nailed it. if there's a change, the internet is driving it. we can get online now and see the results that people are getting. when i was growing up all we had was gun magazines and anecdotal evidence about which cartridge "hit harder"


Unless of course, you got out and used different cartridges yourself,above and below the 30/06 threshold, rather than depend on 3rd party information.


easier said than done. I was raised to think that anything less than a .270 is unethical on whitetails. Hunting clubs/landowners didn't even want me out on their land with a .243. Humorous in retrospect, but quite real at the time.

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I want the most for least. Compare a 110 TTSX in a 270 vs a 120 TTSX in a 7mag. Aint far off......

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Originally Posted by SKane
Originally Posted by jwall

The only ones I know of/about going 'smaller' are on here, and


That's pretty much what I see too. Last year WI did away with the last of the deer shotgun zones. Several people inquired about what rifle I thought they should buy and every one of them already had 300 mag on the brain. crazy


I had the magumitis for a bit...as much as I like my .300 Win Mag, it don't kill anything any deader than my .270 and I'm pretty sure I could kill anything around here just as dead with a quarter bore, a 6mm or even a centerfire .22(I just haven't completely wrapped my head around the centerfire .22 yet, my dad has never liked anything smaller than a 6.5 for deer)


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Originally Posted by deflave
The closer you get to the east coast, the bigger the cartridge you need.



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True, especially when theyre going west to hunt elk. Magnumitis runs rampant!

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Originally Posted by drover

RCBS 2012 Top 10 Rifle Reloading Die Sales - By Chuck Hawks

Curious about the popularity of centerfire rifle cartridges among reloaders? There usually isn't a dramatic change from year to year; it is more like a glacial movement. Regardless, here is RCBS's 2012 sales list (first published in 2013) for their top 10 best selling rifle reloading die sets:
1..223 Remington
2..308 Winchester
3..30-06 Springfield
4..243 Winchester
5..270 Winchester
6..300 Winchester Magnum
7..22-250 Remington
8.7mm Remington Magnum
9..30-30 Winchester
10..25-06 Remington

Although missing the top 10, .338 Winchester Magnum remains the best selling of all medium bore cartridge reloading dies. The most interesting changes on this RCBS die sales list are the .308 surpassing the .30-06 as the number one big game hunting cartridge among reloaders and the .300 Win. Mag. passing the 7mm Rem. Mag. Since all .300 Magnums indisputably kick too hard for most hunters to handle without flinching, the latter is particularly deplorable.

Less surprising in this magnum oriented hunting climate is the decline of the .30-30, which has slid in reloading die sales over the last decade or so. (Of course, the .30-30 has always been a better seller in factory loaded ammunition than in reloading dies.) I regard this trend as unfortunate, as the .30-30 is all the cartridge most hunters will ever need and it kicks much less than the magnums, allowing more precise bullet placement.



This is one of the reasons why I hate reading stuff from this Chuck Hawks guy. He doesn't even know what a medium bore is!

To the Op: Nah, I'm not seeing a trend of small calibers for hunting. But, I see more and more Assault Style rifles at the range. Which is probably why 1 & 2 are where they are at. The 223 & 22-250 is used here a lot by the varmint hunters. 243 is the smallest caliber allowed to hunt big game here & I see mostly kids & women shooting them. The 270, 7mm's, 06, 300 mags still rule here.


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