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The greedy little bastids have overlooked one consequence. The moment they declare themselves professionals, the NCAA will declare them ineligible to play.
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I don't think this will stand court action. Just another iteration of Hussein and his toady Perez over at Sec Labor, of using the packed NLRB force their socialist agenda.
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Things I learned on the Campfire.
-College football players should play for free, for your enjoyment. After all, you are entitled to it.
-College football players should play for free, to subsidize other sports. After all, the women's golf team is entitled to it.
-People are greedy if they want to be paid when they work or play a sport where they bring in money. What country do we live in again?
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I say strip the money out of it ...
Good luck with that.
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Is anyone really surprised that Skeeters NLRB would hand down a decision that promoted unionization?
The unions will fit right in with the commie's and [bleep] in the teachers lounge though.
Hockey and a good trade school's probably your best bet this day and age.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Calvin, what part of "amateur" escapes you? If these football hulks want to be paid athletes instead of student athletes, fine. Let them compete concussion to concussion with NFL players. Right out of high school.
The same goes for basketball, tennis, golf, or even chess teams. You want to be a pro? Compete with the pros.
While we're at it, if schools have to pay their "students" to play sports, then they should also require the "students" to take full class schedules in real courses, no class cuts for practice, and reserve all scholarships for scholars.
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Calvin, what part of "amateur" escapes you? If these football hulks want to be paid athletes instead of student athletes, fine. Let them compete concussion to concussion with NFL players. Right out of high school.
The same goes for basketball, tennis, golf, or even chess teams. You want to be a pro? Compete with the pros.
While we're at it, if schools have to pay their "students" to play sports, then they should also require the "students" to take full class schedules in real courses, no class cuts for practice, and reserve all scholarships for scholars. Agreed!
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-College football players should play for free, for your enjoyment. After all, you are entitled to it. They are getting a tax free college education, if they will take advantage of it. -College football players should play for free, to subsidize other sports. After all, the women's golf team is entitled to it. The law says that after women complained. -People are greedy if they want to be paid when they work or play a sport where they bring in money. What country do we live in again? America, where the amateur athletes are amateurs not professionals like in communists countries. If they want paid a salary on top of a free education they are professionals and should play with the big boys and pay for their own education. miles
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"While we're at it, if schools have to pay their "students" to play sports, then they should also require the "students" to take full class schedules in real courses, no class cuts for practice, and reserve all scholarships for scholars."
This is exactly correct
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I really don't think that every college's football (or basketball) team makes money for the school.
What this decision will do is raise the cost of having these teams. The small schools will drop the programs completely.
Even if they can find players to play cheap, they will drop the programs because of all the other overhead that goes with employment.
Islam is a terrorist organization.
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Maybe they can work it down to two conferences: Paid and Unpaid.
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Y'all realize that there is no earthly reason why colleges and universities should be involved in sports at all, don't you?
Let me put it this way. You send your kid to college - at great expense - to get an education, not to play sports or watch sports. Right?
What's the matter with you guys? Your kids could graduate in three years instead of four, if we got rid of all the useless crap on campus, like sports.
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Y'all realize that there is no earthly reason why colleges and universities should be involved in sports at all, don't you?
And the same goes for HS. I hear all kinds of people whine about sports getting cut with budgets. No reason we couldn't use private leagues instead.
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Y'all realize that there is no earthly reason why colleges and universities should be involved in sports at all, don't you?
Let me put it this way. You send your kid to college - at great expense - to get an education, not to play sports or watch sports. Right?
What's the matter with you guys? Your kids could graduate in three years instead of four, if we got rid of all the useless crap on campus, like sports.
The football program here not only covers all 21 sports played on campus but also gives a gift of between $5 and $10 million to the university for scholarships, buildings, research etc... What's wrong with that?
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You have to have nothing, and I mean nothing, to do if you watch professional sports.
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Of course if college athletes are considered employees, then the value of their education should be considered income, and taxed as such by the IRS.
As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
And, naturally the union will want the students to pay dues.
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So much for watching college football! Ain't nuthin but 'burr heads' playing anyway...just like the pros!!
Even birds know not to land downwind!
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So now these colleges & universities are required to offer healthcare to the student players? They are now employees right, or are they considered part time?
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So now these colleges & universities are required to offer healthcare to the student players? They are now employees right, or are they considered part time? That is what this whole thing was about. I'm not saying talks over a stipend would not come later, but with title 9 they won't go anywhere. Also, the only D1 schools that did not turn a tidy profit from football are, the ones that just made the jump to D-1, and their budgets are usually stressed the first few years by having to build/add on to facilities. Here is a simple breakdown of Northwesterns sports budget from 2011. School / Revenue / Expense Football (Number of athletes � 105) / $22,704,959 / $15,733,548 Men�s basketball (Number of athletes � 15) / $10,048,801 / $4,158,854 Other sports � Men�s (Number of sports / Number of athletes; 6/106) / $656,037 / $4,093,011 Other sports � Women�s (Number of sports / Number of athletes; 11/239) / $764,483 / $11,426,624 Total: $0 (revenue � expense) / $48,921,823 / $48,921,823 Student fees: $383 Amount athletics receives from student fees: $39 per student
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The football program here not only covers all 21 sports played on campus but also gives a gift of between $5 and $10 million to the university for scholarships, buildings, research etc...
What's wrong with that?
What's wrong with it is this; college kids have no business playing or watching sports, IMO. Their business is learning. And if the alumni want to give $5-10 million to their alma maters, they can do that directly.
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