I realize it is not the whole problem but STOP supporting the Scalpers!! Check out the classifieds here and you see it all the time. Regardless of how many post or what their rep is on the Fire, Dont buy from SCALPERS ,that is just contributing to the problem. Shoot a shotgun,bb gun,centerfire handgun or rifle ,throw rocks,whatever but STOP supporting these people who are destroying our shooting sports .
Black powder (Pyrodex) has been on the shelf whenever I go in the local store. That's been my backup plan during these crazy times. I will not pay scalpers!
Bcraig: Is it your contention that this now 19 month long ammo shortage is caused by "scalpers"? I attended a gunshow this weekend in Missoula, Montana and out of all the table holders and vendors (including a group of 6 tables held by a commercial ammunition selling company!) there was exactly 2 (two!) bulk packs of 22 L.R. ammunition being scalped there as of the opening bell! Those two lonely boxes (bulk packs) or Remington Golden Bullet hollow-points were marked at $55.00 each and were on the same table! So at that venue there was NOT a lot of "SCALPING" going on (possible!)! In fact I spent the whole long day searching for 22 hollow-points and 17 Mach2 ammo in the town of Missoula and then south through the length of the Bitterroot Valley. I lost track of the chain stores, sporting goods stores, gun shops, pawn shops and the like that I searched through. I saw not a single box of 22 h.p. ammo on a stores shelf anywhere! I did find a small dank pawn shop that had 6 boxes of 17 Mach2 ammo (the labels were faded by the sun!) at $11.00 per box. There is scalping going on and the only way I see ending this now 19 month long ammo shortage is for the manufacturers to make more ammo. I have already relayed on this forum how I observed a man selling 22 hollow-points at the tiny Whitehall, Montana gunshow a month or so ago. He had a case of Remington 525 round bulk pack Golden Bullets and he was selling them at $46.00 a pack - he had already gone through more than one half of that case and it was early morning of that shows opening day. So if you consider $46.00 per 525 rounds of hollow-points "SCALPING" then you my friend have a tough row to hoe ahead of you in trying to convince folks not to buy from scalpers. Good luck in promoting your policy - but I think your contention is incorrect/flawed. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Bcraig: Is it your contention that this now 19 month long ammo shortage is caused by "scalpers"? I attended a gunshow this weekend in Missoula, Montana and out of all the table holders and vendors (including a group of 6 tables held by a commercial ammunition selling company!) there was exactly 2 (two!) bulk packs of 22 L.R. ammunition being scalped there as of the opening bell! Those two lonely boxes (bulk packs) or Remington Golden Bullet hollow-points were marked at $55.00 each and were on the same table! So at that venue there was NOT a lot of "SCALPING" going on (possible!)! In fact I spent the whole long day searching for 22 hollow-points and 17 Mach2 ammo in the town of Missoula and then south through the length of the Bitterroot Valley. I lost track of the chain stores, sporting goods stores, gun shops, pawn shops and the like that I searched through. I saw not a single box of 22 h.p. ammo on a stores shelf anywhere! I did find a small dank pawn shop that had 6 boxes of 17 Mach2 ammo (the labels were faded by the sun!) at $11.00 per box. There is scalping going on and the only way I see ending this now 19 month long ammo shortage is for the manufacturers to make more ammo. I have already relayed on this forum how I observed a man selling 22 hollow-points at the tiny Whitehall, Montana gunshow a month or so ago. He had a case of Remington 525 round bulk pack Golden Bullets and he was selling them at $46.00 a pack - he had already gone through more than one half of that case and it was early morning of that shows opening day. So if you consider $46.00 per 525 rounds of hollow-points "SCALPING" then you my friend have a tough row to hoe ahead of you in trying to convince folks not to buy from scalpers. Good luck in promoting your policy - but I think your contention is incorrect/flawed. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
As I said from the beginning I realize scalping is not the entire problem.AND I NEVER said it was the only problem,nor did I IMPLY that the 19 month long ammo shortage was caused by Scalpers. That is a leap of your imagination to say the least. reread my post. And its not BUT when someone does buy all they can and then turns around and Scalps others for it it ADDS to the problem. Just because some ARE willing to pay scalpers prices does NOT mean that scalpers are not part of the problem. IF people would stop paying double what they can be bought for then it would certainly help. Of course it goes without saying that I think your contention that Scalping does no harm is wrong and flawed . Now for the part you ARE correct about a lot of people will buy anyway. So it will continue to be a problem. But to say that SCALPING is not PART of the problem , well, I could agree with you But then we would both be wrong.
You can only be scalped if you want to be. People need to quit whining. You should have been buying along and not waited. The manufacturers are working overtime and making large investments in facilities. If I had a dollar for each of the whining threads on ammo I would never have to work again. Get over it guys and but when you can as we will have another episode again one of these days.
You can only be scalped if you want to be. People need to quit whining. You should have been buying along and not waited. The manufacturers are working overtime and making large investments in facilities. If I had a dollar for each of the whining threads on ammo I would never have to work again. Get over it guys and but when you can as we will have another episode again one of these days.
Yeah for the most part true about allowing themselves to be scalped. However when the scalpers are defending the outrageous prices some people will naively believe then that this is normal and ok . More need to stand up to this sh.. and tell them that this not ok. Telling people what they should have done doesn,t help as that is an after the fact statement. There is nothing wrong with complaining about others trying to take advantage of you. I do agree with the part about buying when you can with the caveat of not being a slovenly pig and buying it all or bringing in others to help you buy it all ,then turning around and trying to stick it to others less fortunate to be in the right place at the right time as they were.
Our Canadian members have said that they are not having an issue getting .22 ammo, so there is still the panic mode going on here in the USA with Obama in the White House. I can imagine this will continue for some time until he is out of office. I have begun to find .22 RF in some of my local gun shops, but in small amounts and at high prices. But a year ago, you would have not found any at all.
Just because we get a Republican in the White House, it will most likely swing the other way again as Americans are under greater economic pressure that neither political party chooses to fix and will vote for another empty liberal suit. So I would make sure you are stocked up for the next Democrat who gets sworn in down the road.
Our Wally World has still been getting 22 LR every couple weeks. You can buy three boxes of 550 Federals for $24.00 a box. You have to get there at 7 oclock to get any. Some of the same old guys are there every time. You can not beat them. They are not shooter, just trying to help there income. I have told him to give others a chance, but he keeps coming back. I am just trying to supply 3 of us shooting. Scalpers rub me wrong and buyers from them will not help themselves.
Ammo is around, just takes a little online research to find it. Today I bought 20 boxes of CCI SV for $4.99 a box. Called my brother to tell him and he did the same from the same retailer. Then found a brick of the Remington 33 grain premier .22 mag stuff as well for $22.99 a box. Cabelas has some 22LR in stock as well but they limit you to one box per day.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
