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So I am working on a Mannlicher project. I send the barreled action off to a smith to have it cut. Because it needs to align just so with the end of my stock, I mark the length I want on a piece of tape and send him some pictures of how it should look in the stock (I did not send the stock, inasmuch as I was working on it.) These are photos I sent him So what comes back in the mail, after two months? He decided to ignore my tape mark--which happened to be 18" from the receiver face, and cuts it to 18" from the beginning of the threads instead because that is "a pretty common length." It is over 1/2" too short for my stock. WTF is that about? I can of course cut off the stock, re-inlet the fitting for the nose cap, and re-taper the forend, but that is a bunch of work. By the way, this gunsmith does not frequent this board, so you need not fear if you use any of our guys.
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Looks like a new barrel is in order. I would hold him responsible for it.
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Looks like a new barrel is in order. I would hold him responsible for it. Yep, if he patently ignored your instructions. Include these pics in your complaint. What a maroon. (Then again, what are the odds that dufus can exactly match that barrel contour if/when he replaces it. Perhaps have a real pro replace it and have him foot the bill instead.)
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I sent him the photos. His reply was "sorry for the confusion."
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This is just an illustration of why I get nervous paying ANYBODY to do ANYTHING for me . . . be it construction contractors, watch makers, car mechanics, or gunsmiths. I spend more energy worring about everything that could go wrong instead of being excited about the end result of what is SUPPOSED to happen.
By the way, I feel your pain (obviously).
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Give him somthing to be sorry about. Who is this "G'Dam gunsmith"?
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And that's why I cut off my own barrels.
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You might have a good gunsmith thread a false muzzle to go on the end, not even close to rocket science. The thread line will not show or barely show. You might contact the gunsmith to see if he would do this for you for free.
I have had false muzzles put on contender pistol barrels that were 14" long and I needed to bring them to legal length for rifle use, they just have to be epoxied on to be legal.
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We sent two M98 actions to a gunsmith to be rebarreled, a year later he finally sends them back. My barrel is 22 inches long, I ordered a 24" barrel, and the crown was unbelievable bad. Plus he didn't leave a 1.5" shank like I ordered. I can't set back because there is little to no shank.
The other rifle was chambered about .125" too long. We noticed the shoulder 1/8 longer after a firing a round. The second rifle was/is a 375-06. We even paid for the reamer, that he kept and wanted us to pay for a headspace gauge, be we refused that and told him to use standard 30-06 gauges.
Basically with all said and done, we were lucky to get our rifles. Some others didn't. The guy croaked and is out of business now.
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So I am working on a Mannlicher project. I send the barreled action off to a smith to have it cut. Because it needs to align just so with the end of my stock, I mark the length I want on a piece of tape and send him some pictures of how it should look in the stock (I did not send the stock, inasmuch as I was working on it.) These are photos I sent him So what comes back in the mail, after two months? He decided to ignore my tape mark--which happened to be 18" from the receiver face, and cuts it to 18" from the beginning of the threads instead because that is "a pretty common length." It is over 1/2" too short for my stock. WTF is that about? I can of course cut off the stock, re-inlet the fitting for the nose cap, and re-taper the forend, but that is a bunch of work. By the way, this gunsmith does not frequent this board, so you need not fear if you use any of our guys. Can't spell out the instructions in a clearer fashion. I wouldn't let him take out the garbage.
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Just shorten the wood to match the barrel length
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Just shorten the wood to match the barrel length ...and name the bastard.
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On top of that, he crowned that barrel by using his steady rest, The crown is now concentric with the OD of the barrel, not concentric with the Bore.
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Why are there spin marks near the end of the barrel where you had it cut?
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On top of that, he crowned that barrel by using his steady rest, The crown is now concentric with the OD of the barrel, not concentric with the Bore. Jim, thanks for that little tidbit I had a 700 Mountain rifle that had to be recrowned and it had the same marks. Now I know why.
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Why are there spin marks near the end of the barrel where you had it cut? Like I said, steady rest.
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On top of that, he crowned that barrel by using his steady rest, The crown is now concentric with the OD of the barrel, not concentric with the Bore. Yup, first thing I noted. Well, besides being 3/4" too short. That is sad.
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I would be asking for a new barrel.
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