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Re: Indian Artifacts kaywoodie #8832321 05/03/14
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,950 Likes: 21 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger
huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,950 Likes: 21 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado	good stuff, k-woodie.

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Re: Indian Artifacts huntsman22 #8832380 05/03/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,640 Likes: 6 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana
kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,640 Likes: 6 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas	Today's find, huntsman????? Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Indian Artifacts kaywoodie #8832394 05/03/14
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 953 R Ravenr2 Campfire Regular
Ravenr2 Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 953	Clean britches too. Nice collection kaywoody Last edited by Ravenr2; 05/03/14.

Re: Indian Artifacts Ravenr2 #8832438 05/03/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,640 Likes: 6 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana
kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,640 Likes: 6 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas	Yup and thanks! Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Indian Artifacts kaywoodie #8835020 05/04/14
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,950 Likes: 21 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado huntsman22 Campfire Ranger
huntsman22 Campfire Ranger Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 22,950 Likes: 21 Kiowa/Deer Trail, Colorado

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Re: Indian Artifacts huntsman22 #8835093 05/04/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT S shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT	Here are a few from my collection gathered around Hebgen Lake, Montana. My mother and I spent many early Springs looking for these artifacts where Indians must have spent years hunting and gathering. It is interesting the different materials that ended up here and realizing that obsidian was the most common material and basalt had to come from somewhere else. The knife on the left is complete and wonderfully made, again material from somewhere other than Hebgen Lake area. The obsidian point nest to the knife is finely formed and more typical of later Indian influence. The Basalt piece is indicative of a hafted knife and made from basalt. I found it on a gopher mound over a mile from the lake. The next obsidian point is not broken or mis-shaped, it is actually a rare type of parallel plane on both cutting surfaces with some design meant for a particular purpose. It has been so long since we studied and had these artifacts cataloged, I forgot a lot of the genesis of these pieces. The bottom piece is an actual flint from a flint-lock rifle that has been converted to a scraper by an Indian and used more recently in regards to Indian history. All of our artifacts were used by the impact study done when they were looking at "Ski Yellowstone" a proposed ski area to be built near Hebgen Lake in the early 1970's...

Re: Indian Artifacts shrapnel #8835275 05/04/14
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,640 Likes: 6 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana
kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,640 Likes: 6 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas	The musket flint sure looks like Chalcedony from France! Also known as French Ambers. French had the flint market cornered til the Napoleonic wars. Then the English Brandon flints gained in popularity. That's not saying the English flint weren't used before then, because they were. It's just the French were actually more popular! Awesome finds !!! Thanks for sharing!! Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Indian Artifacts kaywoodie #8836763 05/05/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN slumlord Campfire Kahuna
slumlord Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN	Went out Saturday,found the usual cart full of broken stuff. This site has a unique geographical feature known as a "karst window". Strong flowing spring feed branch from off property flows in, then disappears into a collapsed sinkhole-cave. Found this within 25 yards the water. (quarter just for scale)

Re: Indian Artifacts slumlord #8836857 05/05/14
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,139 Likes: 6 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger
gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,139 Likes: 6 Annapolis, Md.	I spent hundreds of hours as a kid arrowhead hunting in the fields below our house in Washington County, Maryland. Found gazillions of them and gave most away. I guess I should take some pics of the ones I kept. 20+ years ago my then little nephew used to pester me to show him my collection, so I upped the ante and told him we would go out and find some for himself. We were standing at the bottom edge of Mom's yard and I was explaining to him how to hunt and what to look for, yada yada. I looked down and lo-and-behold there laid a perfect pink arrowhead not one foot from where he was standing. I calmly coaxed him into starting his search right where he was standing, and after several false starts he spotted it, grabbed it, and went running and yelling back up to the house to show everybody. Arrowhead hunting was over for the day! (To this day the family is convinced I 'salted' it there for him to find, but I didn't- it was one of those little freaky moments in life!) "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Indian Artifacts gnoahhh #8836992 05/05/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT S shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT	Here are some more found in the same area. We used to look all over the for artifacts and found more than projectile points. The age of some of these is thousands of years old. The upper right piece was complete when I found it, but part broke off during handling. It is probably the oldest piece in our collection. The white piece below it is almost clear, I have it on a piece of black paper to set it out to be seen. The Basalt point and the other point are very old, way back B.C. The other scraper/knives are of different material as well showing that the material at least was from a foreign source, if not the Indians that left them there...

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Re: Indian Artifacts shrapnel #8878443 05/19/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN slumlord Campfire Kahuna
slumlord Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN	Put several more miles on my red wings last two outings. The rain has been good. I'm cased up for better ones of the bunch. And its full. This represents all finds since March 2014. About 7 or 8 visits to my locations. Lastest sites a bearing lots of tools. I think it may have been a butchering/hunting encampment. IDK for sure. Here a couple are insitus, they are fun to capture.

Re: Indian Artifacts slumlord #8878453 05/19/14
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana rattler Campfire Ranger
rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 NE Montana	would have really loved to spend time searching the chunk of ground DocRocket took us out to hunt on.....Kieth and Roger found a scrapper while looking for a hit pig.....whole area was LOADED with raw flint so im sure it was where the local natives would load up on material.....Kieth brought back a big chunk for a friend that knaps his own flints for his flintlock.....pretty sure a few came back in my luggage somewhere A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books

Re: Indian Artifacts slumlord #8878473 05/19/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN slumlord Campfire Kahuna
slumlord Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN	Several crude knives in the lot, representations of many point types from same sites. So obviously areas were utilized for many years, maybe even 1000s. And again , all points , tools and brokes found last 3 months. Large tools, scrapers and some brokes. And finally; the balance of the lot....a friggin rubbermaid laundry 'tote'. Just got tired of spreading it all out. The volume of the spread wouldnt present an image that gives it justice. Sure...lots of crude tools, but also pre-form spear points and flat knives. I'm thinking chert was quarried here and intial and second phase reductions are evidenced.

Re: Indian Artifacts slumlord #8878503 05/19/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN slumlord Campfire Kahuna
slumlord Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN	Just for comparisons This pic represents everthing I found for 2013 and a different location 30 miles away.

Re: Indian Artifacts slumlord #8878522 05/19/14
Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856 E eyeball Campfire 'Bwana
eyeball Campfire 'Bwana E Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 33,856	Unreal to find that much stuff so quickly. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants. If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.

Re: Indian Artifacts eyeball #8878773 05/20/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN slumlord Campfire Kahuna
slumlord Campfire Kahuna Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 67,412 Likes: 55 TN	Originally Posted by eyeball Unreal to find that much stuff so quickly. miles of cornrows, grid searching row by row in the 'hot spots', hours and hours on my feetsies. I also fan out from hot spots and do wide open across field searches too. If the corn is ankle high, I can weave pependicular through the matrix. Mind you, these guys set their air drill rows at 30", so there's plenty of comfortable viewage as I step thru-, look left-look right-step again all in a fluid motion. It's amazing how fast the human eye and brain can process the scan. If I'm crosscutting, I cover quite a bit ground and can see about 25ft left and right. So about a 50ft swath as i step though. Because all I'm looking for is quick contrasting color of black flint against red clay or tan soil or the quick glint of light hitting a concoidial surface. If doing parallel grid walking, I can murder about 6 rows at a time on flanks at a steady pace. As the crop gets taller, the shadowing robs you of the keen ability to seperate information. However, an overcast day levels the playing field and one can see thru the stalk matrix again. You also have to be studied in your endeavour. I try to understand how the landscapes might have looked 6,000 yrs ago. An understanding of geomorphology coupled with a hunch usually puts me where the stuff is. I also don't spend tons of time discussing which handgun is best to carry in the shower. Laffin

Re: Indian Artifacts slumlord #8879880 05/20/14
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,037 Likes: 28 Clarksville, TN R renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana
renegade50 Campfire 'Bwana R Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 45,037 Likes: 28 Clarksville, TN	Originally Posted by slumlord Originally Posted by eyeball Unreal to find that much stuff so quickly. miles of cornrows, grid searching row by row in the 'hot spots', hours and hours on my feetsies. I also fan out from hot spots and do wide open across field searches too. If the corn is ankle high, I can weave pependicular through the matrix. Mind you, these guys set their air drill rows at 30", so there's plenty of comfortable viewage as I step thru-, look left-look right-step again all in a fluid motion. It's amazing how fast the human eye and brain can process the scan. If I'm crosscutting, I cover quite a bit ground and can see about 25ft left and right. So about a 50ft swath as i step though. Because all I'm looking for is quick contrasting color of black flint against red clay or tan soil or the quick glint of light hitting a concoidial surface. If doing parallel grid walking, I can murder about 6 rows at a time on flanks at a steady pace. As the crop gets taller, the shadowing robs you of the keen ability to seperate information. However, an overcast day levels the playing field and one can see thru the stalk matrix again. You also have to be studied in your endeavour. I try to understand how the landscapes might have looked 6,000 yrs ago. An understanding of geomorphology coupled with a hunch usually puts me where the stuff is. I also don't spend tons of time discussing which handgun is best to carry in the shower. Laffin this is why i cant get the guy to turkey for nothing in the spring alot of times out addicted like a methhead looking for broken rocks on the ground i found an arrow head when i was out walking around one day with him 20 minutes later he finds a huge spear point something or other that put my puny thing to shame

Re: Indian Artifacts renegade50 #8879912 05/20/14
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming eh76 Campfire Kahuna
eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	Great thread gents. One of my favorites. I don't have much of an eye for finding them but got lucky in Texas a few weeks ago with one piece. Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

Re: Indian Artifacts eh76 #8880114 05/20/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT S shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger S Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,669 Likes: 42 Bozeman, MT	We went searching for Indian War artifacts last weekend, we were pleasantly surprised at what we found...

Re: Indian Artifacts shrapnel #8880238 05/20/14
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming eh76 Campfire Kahuna
eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 North of Liberalism in Wyoming	Very cool Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.

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