Well played.... you have no idea what your talking about.
There is no team. There is no time score. Only 4 minutes to shoot 6 targets.... which is more than enough time. Everyone is doing their best to help you make hits. But obviously, you know more about it than I do.
Go check out the web page.... look at the picks.... and the range card. I shot a sub 9lb. .260... the same gun I hunt. Running the same DTC on the SS12x that I run at home. I came away a better shooter, I bet you'd like it.
The first 3 SRM's that I shot, I used my Coyote rifle. A 243 WSSM shooting a 70 grain Ballistic Tip at the first match and changed bullets to the 95 gr VLD for the next 2.
The Match is designed to replicate Hunting just as Sporting Clays. Hunting weight rifles do real well. In fact, we routinely use the rifles we are gonna hunt with at the last couple of shoots every year to get ready.
Last year at the last shoot in September, I used the factory rifle that I started shooting the match with, the .243 WSSM. I shot the 105 A-Max. Everyone in the squad was shooting a 5000.00 dollar rifle. The little Factory Browning topped them all...
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
Well played.... you have no idea what your talking about.
There is no team. There is no time score. Only 4 minutes to shoot 6 targets.... which is more than enough time. Everyone is doing their best to help you make hits. But obviously, you know more about it than I do.
Go check out the web page.... look at the picks.... and the range card. I shot a sub 9lb. .260... the same gun I hunt. Running the same DTC on the SS12x that I run at home. I came away a better shooter, I bet you'd like it.
I didn't say anything about a team or time score on the NRA Sporting Rifle Match. I was referencing the physical part of an event (any event), which may be accomplished by timed movements between targets. But this would cut out a lot of shooters, so the actual physicality involved could be limited somewhat. Though an elevated heart rate is a great test for hunting.
Plenty of western hunting involves close in shooting. To not practice for it seriously handicaps one when it comes time to make such a shot under real conditions. So a rifle that excels at a long range target event may be a poor choice for all around use.
SRM would be a blast but agree that its outside the realm of "most" hunters.
I know alot more guys that feel 300y is a longshot, than those that actually even think about shooting farther.
For longrange hunting or SRM, the 7RM would be great but am I reading it correctly that there are qty = 61 targets at SRM? Seems that many guys are going with a lighter rifle these days, not heavier. 61 rounds from field positions might wear on a fella shooting a light magnum.
If I copied the range card correctly, these are the distances below. RED values are those above 400y which is my arbitrary range for the average dude, you may think otherwise. GREEN are those 400y or less. Doesn't seem like this course would benefit many average-joes, unless they skipped some targets which could still be a hoot. And to shoot 400y the average dude, with the average rifle/scope/load, would need to zero high at 100y and hold high at 400y or use dotz, yeah?
So taking the SRM out of the equation, and setting a 300-400y limit on range... how bad is the 270 Win vs. the 7RM? I thought that was the intent of the article and OP's question.
Kicker is..... 90% of those under 400 are 6".... or shot off sticks. You have no margin for error on wind.... all day. So yeah, it's still enough better that it'd cost you. Extrapolate from that what you wish. Enough to miss a critter... maybe, depends on the critter.
I wish I had 7 Rem .625/3k performance. But, as you pointed out it is 60 rounds... and I wanted to shoot it with my main stick. The .260/123s was nice to shoot, but I was done after 60 rounds.... and my shooting on the back half reflected it. There's no way I could do it with a sub-9lb 7 Rem... 3 stages tops.
Also, there are an additional 16 from 400 to 500, which I feel is a reasonable BG cut-off for someone familiar with their rifle. I'd love to run it with a squad of guys shooting sub-9lb hunting sticks, off packs, no electronics.... just a range card and a drop chart. Under that format 45 would be impressive shooting
You better pray to the God of Skinny Punks that this wind doesn't pick up......
It would be a pretty big stretch to call the Sporting Rifle Match a good indicator of what makes a capable hunting rifle or cartridge. That match's layout simply isn't how most of us hunt.
Billy, what makes you say that? I haven't shot the course but the website reports that there are shots from 175 to 875 yards, and I believe they're all 6" to 12" plates. There are shots required off of sticks and other "field" positions to prone. That sounds like a pretty legitimate test of a hunting rifle and cartridge. I know I'd sure like to get a chance to go out and try my skills.
Tanner
A 308Win. will do that course just fine.It all comes down to what the guy behind the trigger is capable of.You do not need a magnum case to shoot accurately to 1,000 yds.Lots of 6.5X284s being used in long range competition.Very seldom do you see a magnum being used and if you do it is almost always a 300 Winchester.Using one caliber over another will not turn a crappy shot into a better one.Only time and practice using good form can do that.
No one said you needed a magnum for 1000 yards.
Originally Posted by Huntz
Guys gonna be using them 7 Rem.Mags for canoe paddles now that the 26 Nozler is out!!!
Eh, not really.
Maybe as posts for their wind flags!!! Better yet you can stake your tomato plants to them!!
Last edited by Huntz; 05/08/14.
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RC/Dog, what percentage of the stages can be prone bipod? All or are you required to shoot from other positions? If so, what?
Right now the way the course is set, there is only 6 targets (one stage of the 10) that must be shot from sticks. There is one target at 340 (6") that usually has to be shot from sticks on stage 9 when the leaves grow back on the trees.
Some of us were able to shoot it prone realizing that tree branches are mostly air...LOL
Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
It would be a pretty big stretch to call the Sporting Rifle Match a good indicator of what makes a capable hunting rifle or cartridge. That match's layout simply isn't how most of us hunt.
Billy, what makes you say that? I haven't shot the course but the website reports that there are shots from 175 to 875 yards, and I believe they're all 6" to 12" plates. There are shots required off of sticks and other "field" positions to prone. That sounds like a pretty legitimate test of a hunting rifle and cartridge. I know I'd sure like to get a chance to go out and try my skills.
Tanner
A 308Win. will do that course just fine.It all comes down to what the guy behind the trigger is capable of.You do not need a magnum case to shoot accurately to 1,000 yds.Lots of 6.5X284s being used in long range competition.Very seldom do you see a magnum being used and if you do it is almost always a 300 Winchester.Using one caliber over another will not turn a crappy shot into a better one.Only time and practice using good form can do that.
No one said you needed a magnum for 1000 yards.
Originally Posted by Huntz
Guys gonna be using them 7 Rem.Mags for canoe paddles now that the 26 Nozler is out!!!
Eh, not really.
Maybe as posts for their wind flags!!! Better yet you can stake your tomato plants to them!!
Only people in Wisconsin would be dumb enough to do that.
The immediate question that came to mind when reading your post on the guy who's used nothing but the 7mm Remington Magnum and a .458 on over 10 safaris is: If that's all he's used, how does he know how anything else would have performed? (At least those are the cartridges you mean, since you only say "7Mag and a 458.")
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Better yet you can stake your tomato plants to them!!
