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Take_a_knee - "If you can shoot fast enough..." poachers using old FN FAL's (and like stuff) show that the .308/7.62NATO can kill these animals faster then they can re-produce. Pump enough rounds into them, fast enough and even Godzilla goes down. Homesteader.
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RevMike - "I do think that Ingwe was using it before it was invented, so it's possible. ". Was that in before the stone ax period ? LOL Homesteader
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What bullet was used? It would including all big game in the US. The 30-30 has killed a pile of NA over the last few centuries. I'd use the .308 on everything in the US other than grizzly and brown bear. With a 180gr TSX, I think a 308 is adequate for interior griz. The coastal bears can get twice that size though, so it certainly would not be my first pick for those. I watched an 8ft Brownie, standing on his hind legs, take an 8mm rem/mag right in the center of his chest from less than 20yd, he still managed to run nearly 100yd, luckily it was away from us.
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RevMike - "I do think that Ingwe was using it before it was invented, so it's possible. ". Was that in before the stone ax period ? LOL Homesteader Yes, long before. I think he used a rock to carve a picture of it in the side of a cave someplace.
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Take_a_knee - "If you can shoot fast enough..." poachers using old FN FAL's (and like stuff) show that the .308/7.62NATO can kill these animals faster then they can re-produce. Pump enough rounds into them, fast enough and even Godzilla goes down. Homesteader. A South African Game Warden wrote and article on "stopping rifles" years ago in Rifle Mag. He said guys there were about evenly divided between using a 375 or larger bolt gun and an FAL. Both were issued for carry, and Cape Buff was typically what they had to go put down with an occasional lion.
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What bullet did my bud use on the Brownie? It was factory Remington is all I can remember. We were both living in the barracks at Ft Wainwright in 79 and the rifle and ammo were purchased in Fairbanks. My guess is a Cor-loct of 200+ grains.
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RevMike - "I do think that Ingwe was using it before it was invented, so it's possible. ". Was that in before the stone ax period ? LOL Homesteader I think it was when he was inventing dirt.
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KDK - "...when he was inventing dirt. " Wow...wonder what he could tell me about my backyard? Looks pretty INGWE to me. Homesteader
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the 308 many capability has. even much in distant past did NA animals die happily with bullets having similarity to. GD
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KDK - "...when he was inventing dirt. " Wow...wonder what he could tell me about my backyard? Looks pretty INGWE to me. Homesteader Big piles of smoking dog turds?
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Hey, I killed a ground squirrel that had climbed a dead tree with a .45-70 bolt action once, even though I completely missed it! Yes its true, the squirrel tumbled out of the tree stone dead, all I found was a tiny drop of blood from its nose. Figured that big old bullet passing by must have killed it from the shock wave traveling up to its brain. Try that with your puny .308 Windsock or whatever.
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The largest animal I've killed with my .308 Remington carbine was a bull moose in Saskatchewan, Canada. Two shots through the chest did the job efficiently for me. I shot 180 grain Remington core-lokt ammo.
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I think I need to locate a 308 pleaty most rikki tikki before my next mastadon hunt safari thingy.
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Not all that long ago I read that the .308 Win had overtaken the '06 in popularity.
Ask me & I'd say the .280 Rem is the best cartridge for hunting ALL North American big game. Ask me again & I'd say the .308 Win is second best.
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KDK - can't keep cattle, horses or even goats...natures fertilizer. Just think...no BS would mean no used car salesman or bank loan officers. Homesteader
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The .308 Winchester is the only cartridge I have ever known to be uniformly praised and traded off by hunters after they gained some experience with it.
It is a compact no frills achiever that can be built or bought in compact rifle formats and heavy barrel tack drivers. With modern bullets, it would take imagination and ignorance to slander it.
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KDK - can't keep cattle, horses or even goats...natures fertilizer. Just think...no BS would mean no used car salesman or bank loan officers. Homesteader You said ingwielike, I just pictured an old dude smoking turds...
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KDK - just saw your post...mental image almost blew my breakfest. Homesteader.
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Sorry man. But blame the old dude.
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I would use my 308 on any NA game that I would ever hope to hunt. This includes elk.
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