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some here are just dense, or so agenda driven that they won't understand.
No one is saying seatbelts are bad, or that they refuse to wear them when they feel it is appropriate.
Most are saying that it's not government's job to insist that folks wear a belt, or get a ticket.
As always, it's cops on one side, with their world view, and Citizens on the other, with the normal world view. laugh


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
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Protecting us unwashed masses from ourselves. And we actually pay taxes for such nonsense. I wonder how much training is required to generate revenue from people who don't wear, or forget to wear a seatbelt.

Well at least it keeps all the rest of us safe from those dangerous criminals who won't wear a seatbelt. (Though I've never figured out exactly how that works.)


How mugh do you think medical expenses from injuries do to not wearing a seatbelt cost Taxpayers as well as affect your insurance premiums?


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Think of all the medical expenses that are caused from WEARING seat belts.


Being somewhat in this wreck business, I"ve seen way MORE damage from not, than from...

But my personal opinion on medical type stuff... you need to prove you have coverage or can pay, before we are going to go get you and then let EMS take you somewhere... And from that point, I could care less if you wear your belt or not. Or have airbags or not.

Of course I would lean towards an advertising campaign with wide coverage of how much better you generally are by using both. At least from every wreck that I"ve been to so far.


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Just more government BS. A seat belt should be left up to the driver.

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You hear more about the ones who were saved by NOT wearing a belt because it's news. News is the unusual. Being saved by wearing one is so common that it's not news at all.

The son of an acquaintance is another one saved by a belt. His buddy bought a new Jeep and they took it hill climbing. The buddy knew nothing about hill climbing. Half way up a steep one, he spun out and tried to TURN AROUND. It rolled a half dozen times. They had belts and a good roll bar and neither got serious injuries.


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Originally Posted by websterparish47
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Thirty-one miles on a two lane blacktop today...three State Troopers, a Deputy, two city cops. Only saw one driver who had been pulled over.


Texas plates, huh? smile
laugh Nope, no one from Texas knows where US371 is nor where it goes.


Don't bet on that...we bought hay from a fellow just off of 371 last fall. grin

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ever since they started this click it or ticket ....chit ....I flat out DON'T click it ...f u and your stupid laws ...


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Originally Posted by atvalaska
ever since they started this click it or ticket ....chit ....I flat out DON'T click it ...f u and your stupid laws ...


Aren't you being a little rebellious?

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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
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Thirty-one miles on a two lane blacktop today...three State Troopers, a Deputy, two city cops. Only saw one driver who had been pulled over.


Texas plates, huh? smile
laugh Nope, no one from Texas knows where US371 is nor where it goes.



Don't bet on that...we bought hay from a fellow just off of 371 last fall. grin

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Your rare.US371 is only 134 miles long and the largest town it goes through has a population of 12,000. smile So you were somewhere between Coushatta and DeQueen.

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got a bud who was sitting at a lunch table with a fellow from our state .gov ..........when tommy Thompson (f-wis to! ) ...called.. tellin our guy to vote yes> for click er ticket ...or the feds will not feed us federal hwy bucks!!!!!!!!!


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Originally Posted by asphaltangel
Originally Posted by atvalaska
ever since they started this click it or ticket ....chit ....I flat out DON'T click it ...f u and your stupid laws ...


Aren't you being a little rebellious?
NO...i'll/I do pay the fine.......pride can't be bought


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
some here are just dense, or so agenda driven that they won't understand.
No one is saying seatbelts are bad, or that they refuse to wear them when they feel it is appropriate.
Most are saying that it's not government's job to insist that folks wear a belt, or get a ticket.
As always, it's cops on one side, with their world view, and Citizens on the other, with the normal world view. laugh


Perhaps the cops also have the view which comes from a weariness of scraping, with squeegee and mop, the sorry remains of lifeless humans from the pavement?

It isnοΏ½t the smart people who need the law. I kind of feel the same about PFDs. It is after all the job of Coast Guard and SAR to protect/save idiots, isnοΏ½t it?

IοΏ½m not especially fond of a lot of the laws and regulations which are imposed on us - especially the ways they can be enforced upon us. However, I find the contrast with other countries to help with perspective at times. Nepal is a great way to see how traffic laws and rules that we have are not all that bad.


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I actually feel sorry for the police.

Can you imagine writing seat belt violations as a job? I'd have to take all the mirrors outta the house.


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Originally Posted by asphaltangel
Originally Posted by atvalaska
ever since they started this click it or ticket ....chit ....I flat out DON'T click it ...f u and your stupid laws ...


Aren't you being a little rebellious?


I'm just giving you a bad time. My mom is hilarious. Every time she gets in a car and puts one on : "I just hate these things!" Oregon was one of the last states to pass that law. I think New Jersey was the other one. Anyway, I can remember when it came down and how horribly it was received in the rural areas. I use a county van in my employment and this stupid ding ding noise goes on forever until everyone and their service dog puts on a seatbelt.

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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I actually feel sorry for the police.

Can you imagine writing seat belt violations as a job? I'd have to take all the mirrors outta the house.


When they enacted the seatbelt law here I was in law enforcement. By far, most of the cops I talked to were against it as well as I was. First, "Mama Laws" are ridiculous. If you are an adult, you should be able to make decisions for yourself. Especially if they concern your own well being and are not going to harm anyone else.

Minors should be subject to protective laws. For obvious reasons.

I, for one had no problem with stupid people joining the Darwin crowd because of their own stupidity. We are all better off when that happens.

A lot of the cops were against the seatbelt law because they could not lean over to create a smaller profile if being fired upon in the patrol vehicle, and some felt when they needed to hit the ground running from the patrol car, the seatbelt slowed them down.


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Considering it's legal for women to drive, and women with cell phones to be more precise, I click it when I drive.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Considering it's legal for women to drive, and women with cell phones to be more precise, I click it when I drive.
It's a good idea no matter who is on the road. But for the government to insert themselves into the matter is unlawful or the way this country was designed. This is an issue with health and that should not involve the government, although it now does seem to. But it shouldn't and hopefully that will change in the near future.

It should involve only commerce. Let the insurance companies deny coverage if a seat belt was not worn in a personal injury crash. That would have two effects: more seat belts would be worn, and the gene pool would be cleansed.



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Originally Posted by Calvin
Considering it's legal for women to drive, and women with cell phones to be more precise, I click it when I drive.


Calvin, Calvin, Calvin [with my head shaking] smile There's a fair share of male ding-a-lings out there with their cell phone plastered to their ear.

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Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
some here are just dense, or so agenda driven that they won't understand.
No one is saying seatbelts are bad, or that they refuse to wear them when they feel it is appropriate.
Most are saying that it's not government's job to insist that folks wear a belt, or get a ticket.
As always, it's cops on one side, with their world view, and Citizens on the other, with the normal world view. laugh


Perhaps the cops also have the view which comes from a weariness of scraping, with squeegee and mop, the sorry remains of lifeless humans from the pavement?

It isnοΏ½t the smart people who need the law. I kind of feel the same about PFDs. It is after all the job of Coast Guard and SAR to protect/save idiots, isnοΏ½t it?

IοΏ½m not especially fond of a lot of the laws and regulations which are imposed on us - especially the ways they can be enforced upon us. However, I find the contrast with other countries to help with perspective at times. Nepal is a great way to see how traffic laws and rules that we have are not all that bad.


Actually, most cops don't GAF whether you wear a seatbelt or not, but will use the law as a pretext to investigate further. There are some agencies that require their officers to make certain number of "contacts" per day however, and seatbelt violators are easy pickin's.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
some here are just dense, or so agenda driven that they won't understand.
No one is saying seatbelts are bad, or that they refuse to wear them when they feel it is appropriate.
Most are saying that it's not government's job to insist that folks wear a belt, or get a ticket.
As always, it's cops on one side, with their world view, and Citizens on the other, with the normal world view. laugh


Perhaps the cops also have the view which comes from a weariness of scraping, with squeegee and mop, the sorry remains of lifeless humans from the pavement?

It isn’t the smart people who need the law. I kind of feel the same about PFDs. It is after all the job of Coast Guard and SAR to protect/save idiots, isn’t it?

I’m not especially fond of a lot of the laws and regulations which are imposed on us - especially the ways they can be enforced upon us. However, I find the contrast with other countries to help with perspective at times. Nepal is a great way to see how traffic laws and rules that we have are not all that bad.


Actually, most cops don't GAF whether you wear a seatbelt or not, but will use the law as a pretext to investigate further. There are some agencies that require their officers to make certain number of "contacts" per day however, and seatbelt violators are easy pickin's.


Until you name drop that their sargeant is your brother grin

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I never wear a seatbelt.

I also don't close my container.

Gun cases are stupid. I don't care what state I'm driving through.



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