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In the past I have typically used federal match primers across the spectrum.
I've not done a test on the 17's and 20's to confirm those results.
I have been loading with the CCI 400's as of late on my small caliber stuff.
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I've used both the Remington 7 1/2 and CCI BR-4 primers and can't tell a dime's worth of difference.
I looked over the Coopers on Cove Creek and didn't see a 7x57 at all. That's what I was looking for. There were a couple of good looking 22-250's in the Montana Varminter, however.
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now that you mention it, I don't recall ever seeing a Cooper in 7 x 57. Quien Sabe, maybe I just wasn't paying attention. Cooper Model 22, Montana Varminter, 7mm-08 I know it wouldn't have the same sex appeal, but you could find a model 22 as the one above, or the Classic stock style, or repeater in a model 54 in 7mm-08. My first Synthetic Coopers picked up recently. Both are Model 22's. The Fugly laminate is 308 Win. The Phoenix is in 22-250. Best, GWB
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I think they only offer the 7x57 in the Model 22 in it's various styles. A Classic would be good but the wait is most long from what they told me. I'm getting too old to wait a year for anything.
Too bad the Cove didn't show any. that would be one of the best places to find one. Nothing at Guns International either.
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I think they only offer the 7x57 in the Model 22 in it's various styles. A Classic would be good but the wait is most long from what they told me. I'm getting too old to wait a year for anything.
Too bad the Cove didn't show any. that would be one of the best places to find one. Nothing at Guns International either. The 7x57 is available in the model 22 and also the model 52. I have a model 52 7x57 with the Schnabel stock, blued receiver and stainless barrel. It has been setting in my safe for a couple of years and I still haven't gotten around to shooting it, having too much fun with my smaller caliber Coopers. drover
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I think they only offer the 7x57 in the Model 22 in it's various styles. A Classic would be good but the wait is most long from what they told me. I'm getting too old to wait a year for anything.
Too bad the Cove didn't show any. that would be one of the best places to find one. Nothing at Guns International either. Will this do. Pretty wood. http://www.gunsinternational.com/Co...m-Order-7MM-Mauser-.cfm?gun_id=100419775
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The 7x57 is available in the model 22 and also the model 52. Their website doesn't show the 7x57 available in a Model 52 or 54. http://www.cooperfirearms.com/our-rifles/95-model-52I saw the one on GunsInternational but a 7x57 in a Varmint Extreme just doesn't seem right. A .222 or 22-250 but not a 7x57. Just a mental thing, I guess.
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Unfortunately the Cooper website is rarely updated, difficult to navigate and is practically useless.
Their latest catalog does show the 7x57 as being available in both the model 22 and 52. Mine was made in 2012 so they have been doing it for a while. The 7x57 is not a common caliber in Coopers but I doubt that I have the only one they have ever made.
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[quote] a 7x57 in a Varmint Extreme just doesn't seem right. 10/4 A classic, custom Classic or Western classic. Somehow I don't think of beavertail forearms when I think of 7 x 57's. GWB
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The Cooper rifles lack many of the features I prefer for a hunting rifle such as a three position wing safety that controls the firing pin, CRF, and others. I have used a battery of M70's, 99's & others since 1957 and have what I want. When SS with Syn. stocks came out the Kimbers filled that want. Here is a 308 Montana that shoots as good as it gets and cost half of the $2400 cooper $$.
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Got 3 of them thar Coopers, all bought brand spanking new. Bottom one with AAA wood. Didn't give over 1600 for any of them. 10 shots @ 200 w/223 left target is 5 @ 100 w/ the Swift, Right is 5 with 223. As far as the Varmint extreme, I would guess you would probably have the only 7x57 guaranteed to shoot 3 shots into 1/2" or better @ 100.
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Didn't give over 1600 for any of them.
How did you manage to swing that? Here is a 308 Montana that shoots as good as it gets and cost half of the $2400 cooper $$. As good as it gets? Apparently you didn't see the other targets here via the Cooper.
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Didn't give over 1600 for any of them.
How did you manage to swing that? Kitch, I stopped counting at two dozen. I buy pre-enjoyed model 21, 22, and 38 single shots. I've only paid over $1,300 for one Cooper, that was a Varmint Extreme in 308 Win. for which I paid $1600 IIRC. Most have been in the $1,100 to $1,250 range. Add $70 for transfer and shipping to those prices. The 308 Win fugly laminate I paid $1,100 for the rifle, and the 7-08 MTV and the Phoenix 22-250 were $1,225 and $1,250. If you watch here, GunBroker, GunsAmerica you can pick them up reasonable. I have no problem with single shots, and when it comes to the sub calibers, 17, 19, and 20 they have no equal for that price. I've owned 7 Kimbers, a bunch of Weatherby's, Remingtons, Rugers, Brownings, Winchesters,MRC's, Savages, T/C's Mausers and Sako's To my mind, the quality of the wood, fit, finish, trigger and accuracy make the pre-enjoyed Coopers a great value. Best, GWB
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Speaking of nice Coopers- http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=422864197I love case hardened and great walnut and Cooper seems to do it best these days.... Bob
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