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Perhaps one could ask the following hypothetical question.
You are going to get shot at one time. There will be an ambulance team and a surgical hospital waiting to try to save you within seconds of the shooting. Which caliber would you choose to get shot at with? The 223 or a 338? Either will give you a non-survivable wound, no matter the medical help available. Seriously, you're approaching the take-a-knee level of stupidity here..
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Perhaps one could ask the following hypothetical question.
You are going to get shot at one time. There will be an ambulance team and a surgical hospital waiting to try to save you within seconds of the shooting. Which caliber would you choose to get shot at with? The 223 or a 338? Anyways the 7mm 08 would work good for elk. Follow up question: Which venereal disease would you most like to contract? David
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sign me up for .223 FMJ and chlamidia, given my druthers.
I think I misspelt chlamidia too, and am okay with that fact.
I should point out that I own (and love) a 7mm-08, but its not what I elk hunt with.
My elk rifle is about half a pound lighter, and is a .358 Win.
That said, I'd not hesitate to use the 7mm-08 on an elk. I definitely shoot it better. (partly cause of the reduced recoil, and partly cause of the rifle heft)
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Perhaps one could ask the following hypothetical question.
You are going to get shot at one time. There will be an ambulance team and a surgical hospital waiting to try to save you within seconds of the shooting. Which caliber would you choose to get shot at with? The 223 or a 338? Anyways the 7mm 08 would work good for elk. Follow up question: Which venereal disease would you most like to contract? David Can I just choose the vessel the venereal disease comes in?
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Perhaps one could ask the following hypothetical question.
You are going to get shot at one time. There will be an ambulance team and a surgical hospital waiting to try to save you within seconds of the shooting. Which caliber would you choose to get shot at with? The 223 or a 338? Anyways the 7mm 08 would work good for elk. Follow up question: Which venereal disease would you most like to contract? David Can I just choose the vessel the venereal disease comes in? Finally! I was wondering how long it would take to get this thread back on track. David
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I've been involved in a few elk rodeos and not one was due to caliber or cartridge selection. All were due to operator error before, during and/or after the shot. From archery, 243 to 338 Win.
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I thought the 223 was adopted in the military to give survivable wounds so more men were taken off the battlefield. I.E. each wounded man would need two to attend to them. I know the only stupid question is the ones you know the answer too. My bad. Anyways the 7mm 08 is A OK for elk.
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No, the .223 was adopted because GI's couldn't shoot the .338 WM. Or carry hundreds of rounds of ammo. for it.
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Either will give you a non-survivable wound, no matter the medical help available.
Good thing you compared the 223 and 338, because about 10 years ago I worked with a guy that was shot at about 300 yards with a 7mm mag. It hit him in the left butt cheek and blew out his hip/pelvis bones. Butt Shot Bruce was in the hospital for about 3 months if I remember right. He even turned down dissability and came back to work at the sawmill. Sorry, I know this was off topic but most of this thread is anyways. Don't really know if he would have been better or worse with a 7mm-08.
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Perhaps one could ask the following hypothetical question.
You are going to get shot at one time. There will be an ambulance team and a surgical hospital waiting to try to save you within seconds of the shooting. Which caliber would you choose to get shot at with? The 223 or a 338? Either will give you a non-survivable wound, no matter the medical help available. Seriously, you're approaching the take-a-knee level of stupidity here.. You stupid MOFO. A carpenter pontificating on GSW Tx. Enlighten us all regarding the live-tissue training you've attended and conducted?
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Live tissue or not, I would kick your fugging ass in Call of Duty.
Guaranteed.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Either will give you a non-survivable wound, no matter the medical help available.
Good thing you compared the 223 and 338, because about 10 years ago I worked with a guy that was shot at about 300 yards with a 7mm mag. It hit him in the left butt cheek and blew out his hip/pelvis bones. Butt Shot Bruce was in the hospital for about 3 months if I remember right. He even turned down dissability and came back to work at the sawmill. Sorry, I know this was off topic but most of this thread is anyways. Don't really know if he would have been better or worse with a 7mm-08. Ex-girlfriend? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Live tissue or not, I would kick your fugging ass in Call of Duty.
Guaranteed.
Travis I don't doubt that 'cause I don't play dumbazz video games.
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Take-a-pee..
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I don't doubt that 'cause I don't play dumbazz video games.
That's because you don't have what it takes. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Live tissue or not, I would kick your fugging ass in Call of Duty.
Guaranteed.
Travis
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I live with a 12 year old.
You don't want none of this buddy.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The first reason is so that I my eat meat from an animal that lived the way an animal should live, ate what an animal should eat, and died as quick, fear free, and pain free a death as could possibly provide, instead of waiting in terror at a slaughter house. This is a bunch of fuggin BS if there ever was any. Waiting in terror...boy you slurp that liberal chit right up, don't you? I don't have anything useful to add, other than I haven't killed an elk yet and the next rifle I buy will be a 7-08.
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No, but the guy is pretty slow walking with his cane, you could probably catch him if you wanted.
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No, but the guy is pretty slow walking with his cane, you could probably catch him if you wanted. Why would I want to catch a guy that got shot? Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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