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My first piece of advice would be to shoot a 7x57. Soft on the shoulder and tough on game. Big punch in a little case.......... wonder who said that???? I don't have the experience that all y'all have, but in my particular hunting environment, that is my experience as well. I don't need something particularly heavy - even the .30-06 would be "heavy" where I hunt - and speed and distance really isn't an issue either, unless I'm shooting along a right-of-way. For me, the 7x57 simply fits the bill: gentle on the shoulder, I can stay in the scope after the shot, does exactly what I want it to do. There are probably a dozen rounds that can do the same thing, exponentially more if handloaded. I just like the old Rigby load.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I see a lot of 7mm-08 on the racks, but few 7X57's. Would it be safe to say that there might not be a whole lot of difference? This might fit into my long range plans nicely:
I have a 35 Whelen that I shoot at 358 WIN velocities I have a 308 WIN I download to 300 Savage velocities My 25-06 Rem is very .257 Rob-ish when I clock it. All my 30-06 loads are very 1920's retro.
I'm thinking that if a 7mm-08 fell into my hands, I'd just have to knock a few grains off and there'd be my 7X57.
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A 7x57 will outrun the 08.
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Yup. Or you can go past the 7-08 if you want.
I think Ingwe settled on 150gr NBTs at 2500. I shoot standard factory stuff, generally 139-140 at 2600 or so. It just works for me.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I don't have the experience that all y'all have, but in my particular hunting environment, that is my experience as well. I don't need something particularly heavy - even the .30-06 would be "heavy" where I hunt - and speed and distance really isn't an issue either, unless I'm shooting along a right-of-way. For me, the 7x57 simply fits the bill: gentle on the shoulder, I can stay in the scope after the shot, does exactly what I want it to do. There are probably a dozen rounds that can do the same thing, exponentially more if handloaded. I just like the old Rigby load. Don't sell yourself short Mike, this is the internet where EVERYONE is expert!
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Don't sell yourself short Mike, this is the internet where EVERYONE is expert! Ha! I used to be an expert when I was a tax partner in an accounting firm, but that's been a while now. Ain't no way I'm touting myself as an expert on the 'Fire, though. There are a couple of radar screens I just don't want to be on!!
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Don't sell yourself short Mike, this is the internet where EVERYONE is expert! Ha! I used to be an expert when I was a tax partner in an accounting firm, but that's been a while now. Ain't no way I'm touting myself as an expert on the 'Fire, though. There are a couple of radar screens I just don't want to be on!! It helps to carry a rattle, wear a funny headdress and talk to a stuffed bear. Any time you want to borrow the rattle, let me know.
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It helps to carry a rattle, wear a funny headdress and talk to a stuffed bear. Any time you want to borrow the rattle, let me know. I've never been much on saying the Rosary but I have a set of beads someone gave me. Would that work? I know there are probably a few who'd go running. Speaking of which, we haven't heard much from Ingwe since we stopped talking about dogs.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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[quote=shaman] I've never been much on saying the Rosary but I have a set of beads someone gave me. Would that work? Me either, does this count as confession?
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Yup. Or you can go past the 7-08 if you want.
I think Ingwe settled on 150gr NBTs at 2500. I shoot standard factory stuff, generally 139-140 at 2600 or so. It just works for me. OK, so maybe I have these two reversed-- I find a 7X57, knock a couple grains off the load and make a 7mm-08 out of it?
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The 7/08 is loaded to higher pressures from the factory in difference to the 93/95 Mausers still kicking around in 7x57. Factory ammo the 08 wins, handloads the 7x57 wins.
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There is a bee's dick between the two, the difference is what action you intend using...mauser = 7x57.
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[quote=shaman] I've never been much on saying the Rosary but I have a set of beads someone gave me. Would that work? Me either, does this count as confession? When #2 son started riding the bus, I told him that if he ever got into trouble, to start talking to an imaginary friend. That trick had worked well for me when I used to have to navigate through some of the worst parts of town. He took it to heart and reported some years later that it had often saved him. He makes me look tiny-- you'd think folks would leave you alone when you're that size, but it actually makes you a target. I used to walk to work or take a bus through the Over The Rhine section of Cincinnati. I'd have a 3-piece suit on, but I'd cover it with an M65 field jacket. The only time I had trouble was one day when I mixed it up with a lady who had more imaginary friends than mine. Luckily,I was able to out run her.
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The 7/08 is loaded to higher pressures from the factory in difference to the 93/95 Mausers still kicking around in 7x57. Factory ammo the 08 wins, handloads the 7x57 wins. Ah! I get it now.
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"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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I'll take it as a yes
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I'll take it as a yes Dominus vobiscum.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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You realize Ingwe is probably trying to figure out what this is all about, don't you?
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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He certainly is�.asking why the love for the 7x57 is like asking the price of something exorbitant�..if you have to ask you can't afford it. I thought it was common knowledge, genetically predetermined that the 7x57 was the ultimate consummate cartridge��.
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