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Rio Grande #8662467 03/09/14
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Lately, I have been wanting to pick up a big bore lever again and am curious about the Rossi Rio Grande in 45-70. Is it as strong as the Marlin? I've seen conflicting reviews. Also, what is the advantage of a longer barrel vs the 18.5" in the Marlin? Increased velocity or is the 18.5 long enough to get all the velocity you will get? I know this is not a high velocity cartridge but still want to get what I can out of it. I had a 1895 about 20 years ago and it was just way too much fun so that's why I'm thinking of another one.

Last question is there a quality issue with the newer Marlin's? I'd really like to find an older one again but they are pretty hard to come by in my neck of the woods.

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short answer is find an older marlin. the rossi's i have handled look like they were made in china. they may shoot ok, but the looks and workmanship turn me off. the newer marlins are a bit better but have been plagued with problems such that i would not buy one. there are plenty of JM 1895G's on gunbroker. they cost a bit more these days but are worth it. i have had one since 2000 and it is an awesome gun. the 18" barrel is plenty for the 45-70 round.


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I have both an 1895 Marlin and an H&R Buffalo Classic with the 32" barrel. They are both fun to shoot, and both accurate. The nice thing about the 32" barrel is that the muzzle is over a foot farther away from your ears. wink


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That's true. The blast from a short barrel is a lot worse. I'm wondering if the action of the Rossi is as strong as the Marlin's. Yeah, I do agree also with rem141r about the older 1895's being a lot better. Problem is I've been looking around here trying to find one I can get my hands on before buying and there just aren't many available. Guess I'll just keep looking and one will come up one of these days.

Thanks guys!


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Ever consider the Henry .45-70? I handled one at the local shop, they seem to be pretty nicely done. Better than the current crop of Remlins.


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Yeah, I've thought about a Henry. Actually have a 22 lever of theirs and it's an excellent setup. I handled a 30-30 and their actions are amazingly smooth as is my 22. I just hadn't looked at them because they are a fair amount more than the others but at least they are American made. It might be the best way to go if I go with a new one. They are bull strong from what I've heard too so no problem with loading them up to the top.


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Re: Rio Grande [Re: Tulie] #8679364 03/14/14
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All I can say is I have a Rossi 92 in 45 Colt and it is flawless

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I bet it is as fine as any you can buy

That said I would ask him any question about Rossi

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IMO go with what rem141r said. I have 2 older Marlins & love them. One is the cowboy model with the octagon barrel,the other is an older pre-safety 1895 with the 22" barrel. Both are great guns.
I have heard you get a lot more noise & muzzle blast with the 18" barrel,especially if it is ported.

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I can't recommend a Rossi RG, because I've never had the pleasure of shooting one. In my mind, you don't know a gun until you actually shoot it.
However, I do have considerable experience with Marlin. First of all, Marlin is actually 2 companies-the one before the Remington buy out, and the one after. In plain language, Remington destroyed a great company. Their current products suck, are way overpriced, and work better as clubs than guns.
Marlins, big bore Marlins pre-buyout can still be had for decent prices, if you look. The other day I held a 22" 444 that was in fine shape and was under $600, hiding in plain sight on the gun store floor rack.
The pre-buyout guns were hands down, excellent guns. If I couldn't afford a Henry, I'd hold out for a good used Marlin. They are out there, and they are worth the money.

Re: Rio Grande [Re: tmitch] #8971485 06/24/14
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Originally Posted by tmitch
Ever consider the Henry .45-70? I handled one at the local shop, they seem to be pretty nicely done. Better than the current crop of Remlins.


^^^This^^^

The new Henry 45-70 looks and handles nicely. And I like the new Tube Fed design, kinda like an old Marlin 22 mag tube feed.

I've seen a couple of new Rossi 45-70 that had problems at a LGS. The Lever got stuck in the down stroke and could not be cocked.
And if you want a Marlin, I'd buy one made before 2000. JMHO, though.

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