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Looking for a barrel for a Savage 99 takedown? Anyone have one for sale or know where I can find one? Looking for 250-3000 or 300 savage.

I have a 24" Utica stamped barrel for a .250/3000. Judging from the marks where the forearm was I'll guess it came off of an R model. This barrel does not have the "key slot" cut into the bottom of the threads where the "key" on the forearm extension locks the barrel in place but that could be milled in. Let me know if this interests you. This barrel is in good condition on the outside and the bore looks very good. It has no sights and no forearm attachment, only dovetails. I'll ask $200 for it plus the wee bit of freight to take it to your door.

I've got a .410 barrel i'd get rid of if it interests you or anyone else

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Have a 99 "K" in 250-3000
Steve

I was told by my gunsmith (who has Sav 99 experience) that the take down barrels and the solid frame barrels, both have the same threads on them (not including the styles with the interrupted threads). He said the difference is where the dovetail on the bottom of the gun, that holds the forearm onto the barrel, is in a different place on each though.

Is this true?

If so, why are the TD models so much easier to un-screw from the receiver?

Thoughts?

Because they were designed to be that way. When installed as a non-takedown the barrel was torqued into the receiver tightly enough that it would not come loose. The takedown barrels are indexed and held in place by a key in the forearm iron fitting into a keyway cut into the bottom of the barrel. Takedown barrels were never meant to be screwed in more than hand tight although many ended up being loose because some ham handed owners just had to screw it in as tight as they could and twisted it past it's index.

I always get a kick out of "ham handed" people that can twist steel with their bare hands.

I've got a nice 20 inch takedown barrel for sale in 22 H.P.

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You're letting your a$$ show again Roy. If you twist something hard enough often enough something is gonna give. Thus most of the takedown barrels that screw past index. But then, I'm sure that you know better.

So, they're only meant to be screwed in hand tight, where they presumably stop, barrel metal to receiver metal, and are held in position by a key in a key way.

Until, some ham handed owners give 'er the extra juice, by hand, after they have stopped, meaning barrel metal in tight contact with receiver metal, going past index. Does the key still fit when past index?
Past index meaning they must compress steel on the barrel and/or receiver, and bend threads, by hand. I'll go with damaging the threads if anything, but I ain't ruling out wrenches. "Ham handed" still doesn't explain how the metal to metal contact between the barrel and the receiver recedes and allows the barrel to go past index.

So George, I am not threatened to ask questions and seek understanding, but it will need to be explained if it's not clear. I agree with you that there is a reason why there are takedowns out of index, my question is exactly how and why. After 100 years I'm sure there's been some barrel swapping between rifles, for a % of the takedowns that don't index. The rest???

I could use a ham handed person in my line of work. Seems like everyone nowadays is a limpwrist mommas boy.

Without a positive stop to halt the threading motion, indeed with time one could excessively wear the threads. Remember, these barrels are about 100 years old now, and god knows how often they have been twisted tight. Don't ignore also the mechanical advantage of screw threads- translated into added force against the (relatively) soft steel surfaces when torquing past simple "right there" into "tight as heck". Do it enough, and don't lubricate things, and steel will wear down eventually. Torque+friction is a b*tch.

What about where the end of the receiver meets the barrel? That isn't a positive stop?

I understand that with mechanical advantage such as tools a person can gain over "hand tight", but we're not using tools are we?

Whatever.

Ever looked at the inside of the forearm on a takedown? I think that would count as a tool.

If tools are being used then it's not "ham handed".

How's the view from up there?

The mechanical advantage I was referring to is that provided by the screw threads, whether manipulated by hand or with a tool. And Calhoun is right, the in-stock socket counts as a tool giving (admittedly) a little bit of added leverage.

Force two pieces of soft steel together a thousand times and some change will occur in their dimensions. Hence the precaution to exercise care when mating barrel to receiver.