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I am working loads for a 9.3x62 CZ550

I am working with Nosler 286gr Partitions, I have a few questions

What depth are you seating to? The cannelure seems very far forward from where I would normally seat driving the bullet deep into the case.

Also does everyone crimp these, I normally load smaller bolt guns and don't crimp?

Any Pet loads would also be appreciated.
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I don't crimp for my 9.3 x 62. I'm using Prvi Partizan 285 bullets at the moment in my rifle.



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.020" off the lands, seater die set to slightly crimp, 59 gr RL15, CCI 250,Norma brass
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Super group, BSA.

How fast do you think those NPT's were traveling?

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Thanks buddy. I really need to chrono this load. I know it kills elk and works in conjunction with the ballistic plex reticle fairly well out to 400 yards. One of these days I'll chronograph it blush


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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I don't crimp mine either....as one mentioned .020" off the lands works. Good start for jacketed soft points.

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I seat them about 3/8" off the lands--because that's as close as they get when seated to fit in the magazine of my CZ 550. The groups are about the same as bsa1917's, whether I use RL-15, Varget or Ramshot Big Game.

Have seen the same thing in at least 3 other 9.3x62's. It just shoots.


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John, I've fallen in love with this cartridge. I like the CZ platform as well, it's very robust and has a very nice adjustable trigger (non set trigger) and is extremely accurate. The integral bases are nice and solid too, 5 cartridges in the magazine, smooth operating action and dual recoil lugs + CRF. My only gripe is it doesn't have the Winchester style wing safety. This is only a personal preference based on muscle memory or habit from shooting model 70's. However, If it (the safety lever) wasn't as sharp (shaped more like a m1917), I could see it being more user friendly. By the way, "3/8" off the lands" is a looooooooooong way eek....


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3.285 Cannelure exposed.

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Groups like these seem to be pretty common. The 9.3x62 is a round that's easy to load for and seems to perform well with a range of bullet/powder combos.

What's not to like...

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I am happy to hear your input! I thought I was going crazy. I believe I am sitting on the lands with a length of 3.475(if I remember right) and to seat to their cannalure would make it 3.225. That's .250 off the lands!!

I plan to use mine for Elk also if the shot presents its self.

Has anyone had a problem of bullets changing depth in the magazine when shooting the top cartridges(those that don't crimp). I don't want to crimp; just worried about if I shot a few times the 3rd or 4th shot being affected.

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Lee Factory Crimp die would solve that problem before it started.

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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Lee Factory Crimp die would solve that problem before it started.

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If I go that route then I need to seat the bullet deep to the cannelure, right?
Then I lose case capacity in the bullet is sitting a quarter inch (.250) from my lands!


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No, you can crimp anywhere on the bullet with the LFC die. It sweges the neck against the bullet, and with softer bullets, actually makes a dent. The only bullets that may need some correlation with grooves are the monometals like the TSX, TTSX.

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Originally Posted by Longshotjames
I am happy to hear your input! I thought I was going crazy. I believe I am sitting on the lands with a length of 3.475(if I remember right) and to seat to their cannalure would make it 3.225. That's .250 off the lands!!

I plan to use mine for Elk also if the shot presents its self.

Has anyone had a problem of bullets changing depth in the magazine when shooting the top cartridges(those that don't crimp). I don't want to crimp; just worried about if I shot a few times the 3rd or 4th shot being affected.

Thanks again for the input
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How hard is it to set your die up to lightly crimp? A lot of guys here are telling you they don't crimp and that has worked for them. I use cheap azzed RCBS fl 2 die sets with no problems. However, I like to apply a very small amount of crimp for a couple reasons. YMMV...


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Groups like these seem to be pretty common. The 9.3x62 is a round that's easy to load for and seems to perform well with a range of bullet/powder combos.

What's not to like...

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Amen!!!


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I don't crimp any rifle bullets in cartridges with less recoil than the big .416's, and haven't ever seen bullets shift position due to recoil. This includes cartridges loaded for tube-magazine lever-action rounds up to and including the .348 Winchester.

Neck grip has far more to do with holding bullets in place against recoil than crimping.


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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Groups like these seem to be pretty common. The 9.3x62 is a round that's easy to load for and seems to perform well with a range of bullet/powder combos.

What's not to like...

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In that respect it's like an overgrown 308.

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BSA, DF & Muledeer,

Greatly appreciate your crimping responses. Time to get busy!

Powder: appears most have good results with RS Biggame but I can't find any locally. I have Varget, anyone using Varget and achieving near 2450fps velocities? I expect accuracy to be good either way wink
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big game and reloader 19 have proven very effective. I have heard good things abut r17 also.

Right now my go to load is 65gr of big game, loaded to the crimp groove 3.225� ITs extremely accurate and runs right at 2460fps out of my 23� barrel
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