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TRH;
Dispensationalism is a whole body of beliefs and taken as a whole I would almost agree that it is new and gained momentum in the late 1800's and early 1900's and down to today. I am not a dispensationalist.

Nonetheless you err greatly because chiliasm is found in the ante-nicene writers and others.

http://knightword.wordpress.com/201...alism-and-chiliasm-in-the-patristic-age/

Some of the Reformers being sycophant slaves to Augustine rejected chiliasm too, but any honest objective student must affirm the good and reject the bad of any man.

There are still promises to Israel after the flesh and it is not a deep and hard hair splitting debate; it is on the surface of the text and any serious student of Isaiah and the minor prophets knows this.

You should interpret the Old Testament in light of the New, not the other way around.

why? because one followed the other?

does that open the door for further heresies/truth?

Hawkeye, here�s where you and I disagree. An individual can�t stop the Soviets or Ottomans (or any other tyrannical government) from murdering people; that requires the intervention of a non-tyrannical government.

The revelation of God is progressive. The types/shadows of the OT have more light she'd upon them in the NT.

Interpretation is always fraught with danger.

I asked him if he withheld his love from the old Soviet Union or the Ottomans? Said nothing about stopping anything. He's suggesting that to tell the truth about evil is a withholding of love that's due.

Well I didn�t mean to be bringing Isaac into the discussion but rather meant it as a continuation of our prior discussion regarding the just role of a state in international affairs.

Different thread. Different topic.

thanks. this is much better. caps makes me seem so emotional.

jorge,

You have no clue of what are facts. You know only what talking heads have told you and what you've read in print media. Facts cannot be discerned from such sources. In fact, such sources, at best, are hearsay.

For decades, Israel has been staging criminal acts and blaming them on Palestinians in order to justify an illegitimate response that includes murder and seizing of more land.

Israel's crimes, including murder of Palestinian and goyim children are instigated by its Rabbis.

I have no clue whether every killed Palestinian child was an Israeli murder. However, killing kids who have allegedly thrown rocks at armed Israeli soldiers is not only not justifiable, it does not make sense. Do you believe that a Palestinian kid would throw rocks at Israeli soldiers knowing that soldiers would respond by killing them? Does that make sense to you? Do you believe that IDF soldiers have dressed as Palestinians, and as so dressed thrown rocks at other IDF soldiers in order to justify murdering Palestinians?

Israel took the Golan Heights because it needed it as a source of potable water. It fabricated an attack that illegitimately justified its response of seizing its desired land.

Robert, I am well aware of corrupting scriptures, for I can easily allege your doing same. However, in my post, I've corrupted nothing, for I cut & pasted verbatim from the Bible. So if I've cut & pasted verbatim from the Bible, how could that be interpreted as corruption unless, of course, you're alleging the Bible is corrupt.

Isaac,

Why are you prone to avoid gist of posts and transitioning to spurious attacks of posters? When you lack intellectual ability, you resort to childish tactics.

Here's what I do know. Most divorce lawyers hate their jobs. Judges hate family law assignments. They can't wait to be transferred to criminal court. But since divorce attorneys lack ability to practice what, for lack of better term, is legitimate law; e.g., corporate, patent, tax, their paucity of legal skills leave them in the realm of destroying families and speciously calling it justice.

Most family law lawyers I know are miserable and heavy drinkers. I guess living the lie of meting out justice where destruction reigns would cause those with a tiny conscience to attempt to wash away guilt with booze. Is this where you're coming from? Or does lucidity merely escape you?

Think about it. He is the type of person that, with all the industry available, selects the one the breaks a sacred trust in the name of personal gain. Tells you everything you need to know.

The way you corrupt the word of God is that you omit any reference that contradicts your replacement theology.

Such as Isaiah 11:
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.


Hosea 3:4-5 -

4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim:

5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days

If you're interpreting passages of the Old Testament in ways that contradict their New Testament explanations, then I find it hard to consider you a Christian.

there's so many different worlds, so many different suns, and we have just one world, but we live in different ones.

Those all fit well within the framework of covenant theology because covenant theology is the least inaccurate representation of Biblical truth.

You should better study the New Testament. Earlier in this thread I posts important passages in the NT's ecclesiology. Before one can construct an eschatology one must construct an ecclesiology.

One of the major problems with Dispensationalism is how it was founded upon eschatology with its ecclesiology to follow. Basic hermeneutics have it that one interprets the less clear in light of the more.

Whoa easy there. We all have blind spots. We're fallen. Grace reaches farther than our ability to understand.

Imagine God directing the punishment of every person on earth because one of them ate the wrong piece of fruit.

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I wish I represented the trannies you married out California way. How many retainers could I have received with all of your names? Helping meth-head trannies divorce a screwball is one thing but getting a quadruple retainer for all your assumed identities would be a windfall.

You'd blow your brains out before letting me have my shot at further crippling a mental cripple.