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I'm not speeding that much. That's just one I found while cruising. I know where a couple "probables" are hiding. Good to know. Figured that since you lived in Kentucky,you are a genius.
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110�s will outrun 85's around the 200'ish yard line. You talking velocity wise? There�s no doubt that the 110 is a better all around bullet, but that 85 is a freaking laser out to the ranges most stuff is shot - I think of it as a beefed up 220 Swift. 85's at 500 drop 36.5" w/100 yd zero 110's at 500 drop 37.2" w/100yd zero They arrive with more ass and 10" less drift. BC wins every time....
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Who the hell cares what they do at 500 yards? That�s well beyond the range 99% of game is shot at anyway, plus if I were planning on making a habit of 500 yard shots, I wouldn�t be using either of those bullets, and instead go to something like a 140 Accubond or 150 ABLR.
The only place BC wins every time is on the internet. For that matter, I could hunt the rest of my life with round nose bullets and be perfectly content.
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When I said I think of the 85 TSX/270 combo as an overgrown 220 Swift, it�s because that�s exactly how my Dad uses it. His two primary rifles are a Swift firing 55 Vmaxs and the 270 with 85s. They both have very similar trajectory/drift characteristics, so he can easily transfer from the pdog/coyote rifle to the deer/elk rifle and not have to think about different numbers.
I�ve done similar with my centerfire rifle selection. My hunting rifles all use similar bc bullets shot at similar speeds, so I simply grab the rifle suited to the game at hand and go. Makes for a quick and deadly killing setup.
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Who the hell cares what they do at 500 yards? That�s well beyond the range 99% of game is shot at anyway, plus if I were planning on making a habit of 500 yard shots, I wouldn�t be using either of those bullets, and instead go to something like a 140 Accubond or 150 ABLR.
The only place BC wins every time is on the internet. For that matter, I could hunt the rest of my life with round nose bullets and be perfectly content. You could dropkick them at 200 and gain 1/2" over 110 "rainbow elk bullets" BC aint long division........
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Who the hell cares what they do at 500 yards? That�s well beyond the range 99% of game is shot at anyway, plus if I were planning on making a habit of 500 yard shots, I wouldn�t be using either of those bullets, and instead go to something like a 140 Accubond or 150 ABLR.
The only place BC wins every time is on the internet. For that matter, I could hunt the rest of my life with round nose bullets and be perfectly content. You could dropkick them at 200 and gain 1/2" over 110 "rainbow elk bullets" BC aint long division........ Oh the 85 works fine on elk too, but I�d be happier with a bit more. Of course that comes from actually shooting them, and not talking on the internet. But there�s not a lot of use in trying to talk sense into someone who still thinks moly is worthwhile.
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I won long ago, it just took you this long to realize it.
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Was it the part when you said it was a lazer at hunting ranges, BC doesn't matter, or you could use round nose and be perfectly content? I don't know what a "hunting range" is, but for someone who is content and doesn't care, you certainly got your panties in a wad.....
Please don't care....
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If that didn't have the stainless barrel I'd be all over it...pure sex. I don't cull any caliber...270, 7x57, 35 Whelen, 22-250,257 Roberts, 243-I love them all and they do different things for different purposes.
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I'd be curious to know what all you've killed with the 110 ttsx to proclaim it's superiority over the 85 tsx.
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If that didn't have the stainless barrel I'd be all over it...pure sex. I don't cull any caliber...270, 7x57, 35 Whelen, 22-250,257 Roberts, 243-I love them all and they do different things for different purposes. So you are saying he should buy one of each just to be safe
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In reality, the ONLY way you can criticize a .270 is to call it gay. ;-{>8
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Makes perfect sense to me.
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I just test-shot my latest .270 today. Bought it a month ago for what some people would consider too much money at the annual find-raiser auction of the Jack O'Connor Heritage Center and Museum in Lewiston, Idaho. They have a handful of the commemorative Featherweight Model 70's Winchester put together a couple years ago, and I got to pick the one I wanted, which has spectacular wood. (You can see on the Deep Creek Press Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/DeepCreekPress) But they're not just pretty. Winchester used really good barrels and bedded them right, and Brad O'Connor (Jack's son) told me that every one he's heard about shot very well. I sighted this one in with the last 4 rounds of a box of Hornady 130-grain American Whitetail ammo, the first 3 at 25 to get close and the last at 100, which landed 1-1/2 inches high, almost dead center. Then I shot 3 rounds of Norma 150-grain Oryx factory ammo, and they went into .40. Including the single Hornady round the entire group was under 3/4". And that was with a 4x33 Leupold FX-II, because I scoped it "traditionally." I do believe this rifle is going to shoot. Plan to use it to test a bunch of newer bullets and powders for a Handloader article on "The Modern .270." Will be a hoot to do it with a super-traditional rifle.
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I'd be curious to know what all you've killed with the 110 ttsx to proclaim it's superiority over the 85 tsx. I'm just a simple shooter that thought he understood physics....
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I just test-shot my latest .270 today. Bought it a month ago for what some people would consider too much money at the annual find-raiser auction of the Jack O'Connor Heritage Center and Museum in Lewiston, Idaho. They have a handful of the commemorative Featherweight Model 70's Winchester put together a couple years ago, and I got to pick the one I wanted, which has spectacular wood. (You can see on the Deep Creek Press Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/DeepCreekPress) But they're not just pretty. Winchester used really good barrels and bedded them right, and Brad O'Connor (Jack's son) told me that every one he's heard about shot very well. I sighted this one in with the last 4 rounds of a box of Hornady 130-grain American Whitetail ammo, the first 3 at 25 to get close and the last at 100, which landed 1-1/2 inches high, almost dead center. Then I shot 3 rounds of Norma 150-grain Oryx factory ammo, and they went into .40. Including the single Hornady round the entire group was under 3/4". And that was with a 4x33 Leupold FX-II, because I scoped it "traditionally." I do believe this rifle is going to shoot. Plan to use it to test a bunch of newer bullets and powders for a Handloader article on "The Modern .270." Will be a hoot to do it with a super-traditional rifle. That is a real looker and shooter, a very nice rifle!
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I'd be curious to know what all you've killed with the 110 ttsx to proclaim it's superiority over the 85 tsx. I'm just a simple shooter that thought he understood physics.... Oh so no experience. Just like I thought. The guys quoting lots of numbers are often the guys without much real world experience.
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MagMarc,
Thanks! Now I just hope my handloads shoot as well as factory....
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