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If some prick walks up and grabs your Wifes boob he initiated a godly amount of force, right?
Your gonna fu-k him up, no? Where's the connection between that statement and where you said buying drugs was the initiation of force?
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You do stupid illegal chit and you will draw force, whats so damn smokey about seeing/understanding that?
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You do stupid illegal chit and you will draw force, whats so damn smokey about seeing/understanding that? I have no trouble understanding that if you do something illegal you will draw force, justly or not. What you said was that making a purchase was an initiation of force. That's quite a different thing.
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Making an 'ILLEGAL" purchase will draw heat, buying a train load of dog food will not.
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I wonder what the resident hate-a-cop braintrust would do if they KNEW their next door neighbor was cooking meth and put their entire family AT dire risk but couldn't PROVE it. They would expect who to do what what to protect their family?
mike r
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Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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Were they my neighbors I'd lite em up at 0400 on a cloudy day. The Coppers, Coroner and FD will be along shortly to put out the fire and sack up the dopers.
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GUNNER, that would be an entirely logical but extraconstitutional response. Expect someone to second guess your priorities and methods. Nice touch on the cloudy day!
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
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Making an 'ILLEGAL" purchase will draw heat, buying a train load of dog food will not. Sure, it will draw heat, whether just or not. But you said it constituted an initiation of force. My announcing at a meeting of the National Organization for Women that women belong barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen cooking for their man, would also draw heat (perhaps even violence), but my statement would not be an initiation of force.
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I wonder what the resident hate-a-cop braintrust would do if they KNEW their next door neighbor was cooking meth and put their entire family AT dire risk but couldn't PROVE it. They would expect who to do what what to protect their family?
mike r Drugs being illegal is the cause of folks engaging in the dangerous practice of "cooking meth." Were drugs not illegal, no one would do that as the profit margin would be much higher for other, safer to process, drugs. Also, you'd be able to pick them up at the drug store like you pick up liquor at the liquor store. No violence or criminal element involved.
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My announcing at a meeting of the National Organization for Women that women belong barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen cooking for their man, would also draw heat (perhaps even violence), but my statement would not be an initiation of force. What if you picked her up at a truck stop and she laughed at your stuff?
The only thing worse than a liberal is a liberal that thinks they're a conservative.
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"No Knock" warrants should be far & few between...it should be a last resort type thing...
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My announcing at a meeting of the National Organization for Women that women belong barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen cooking for their man, would also draw heat (perhaps even violence), but my statement would not be an initiation of force. What if you picked her up at a truck stop and she laughed at your stuff? If that happened, it would be a miracle....hard to laugh when you're chokin on a cock...
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Its good to see the jury made the right choice in this case. Freedom from tyranny is way more important than ANY drug law.
�A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.�
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I wonder what the resident hate-a-cop braintrust would do if they KNEW their next door neighbor was cooking meth and put their entire family AT dire risk but couldn't PROVE it. They would expect who to do what what to protect their family?
mike r I would do nothing if I can't prove it.
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Making an 'ILLEGAL" purchase will draw heat, buying a train load of dog food will not. You seem to be well-equipped for an admirable number of potential situations in life; but an argument about what constitutes an initiation of force does not appear to be one of them.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." --Lysander Spooner, 1867
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GUNNER, that would be an entirely logical but extraconstitutional response. Expect someone to second guess your priorities and methods. Nice touch on the cloudy day!
mike r Yes they will no doubt, what they dont know/understand is my views are entirely legal and accepted in the 'Free States' of Oklahoma and Texas, not so much in the locales of the blind rainbow liberal compassionate enablers.
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Making an 'ILLEGAL" purchase will draw heat, buying a train load of dog food will not. You seem to be well-equipped for an admirable number of potential situations in life; but an argument about what constitutes an initiation of force does not appear to be one of them. See my above post.
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Entirely legal, sure.
Entirely accepted, no, not really. I have a couple of anarchist friends in Oklahoma. But I know what you mean.
However, even you would undoubtedly agree that just because there's a law prohibiting something doesn't mean it's wrong, and just because there's a law mandating something doesn't mean it's right.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." --Lysander Spooner, 1867
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AARRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! you smart fellers give my pea brain a headache, it dont have to be that difficult, will you agree that by NOT fu-kin with people or breaking the law will help ensure a persons pain free longevity?
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