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Hypo-christians. I know more of these than true examples.

Took less for the atheists to roll in with their thoughts. Words like "Jesus", "Church" or "Christians" do draw em in don't they?

Please point out the "atheists" who posted.

Please point out the "thumpers" who posted

You for one.

Well that was easy. Thanks for playing.

Don't know if I'm a thumper or not. Do I have to threaten to qualify?

Hey guys, you owe it to yourself to hear that guy out, he has some real good things to say about the christians and why so many of us fail while trying, and why we look bad to non-believers. He truly gets it. I think this message will probably resonate with most of you. Give him a chance.

I can address one or a few points at a time, but already there is so much wrong posted already, I can't even begin to address it all. You either believe or you don't. Just keep in mind that scandal is a sin, not only for the scandalous, but the scandalized as well.

Just FYI, the incidence of divorce among religious couples who pray together every day and practice Natural Family Planning is less than 1%. Faith works.

There's really not much wrong with church. However, there is a lot wrong with people. Church is like a hospital - it's for the sick (all of us). If you think you are too good for church, you're probably wrong.

Well in my experience we get church and Christianity confused to a large degree. Church as in congregational organizations of various denominations that we generally know is largely a human organization and is fraught with human failings, i.e. big business, petty jealousy etc. Christianity on the other hand is a completely different thing which is a belief that Jesus was the true son of God , that he gave his life on Calvary for the remission of our sins and that he arose on the 3rd day in victory over death. He provided us with tenants of how we should strive to live our lives but in the end given our human frailty to measure up to these tenants it is through his sacrifice and resurrection that ultimately reconciles us with God.

Pointing out that Jesus would agree with a critic of Christianity makes one a "thumper"?
Threats? Where? Is saying "Take your pick as though your life depends on it" a threat? You could say the same about buying a car, or choosing a physician. People make such choices all the time.

Someone has a thin skin.

Steve.

Apologies to all if necessary. It seems to me that the people who quote their bible here on the forums with a fair degree of regularity are more sensitive than most of us her that don't quote the good book as much.

Also if you don't walk the walk you are damned forever and Catholics have taken a real beating here at times by those godlike people.

That's just plain wrong.

In our rural area clustered with many small churches they just don't play well with each other.

What makes you think God wants his children to live in poverty?

Money doesn't equal sin. As long is the pride of life, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, isn't a motivating factor in your life, God wants to bless you abundantly.

Something about the "sweat of his brow"

Some jobs pay better than others and ye reap what you sow.

So she came back as a cow.

Quoting Ghandi???

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/irene-monroe/the-gandhi-none-of-us-kne_b_842941.html

I have heard this quote many times spoken by smug concieted Hindus. But if you ever travel amidst the Hindu people you will see that Christian missionaries built all the good schools and hospitals and health clinics.

The original 13 colonies at the time of the Revolution were overwhelmingly descendants of persecuted Protestants from England, Scotland and France. They were the ones who put forth the Declaration of Independence in committee and later drafted the Constitution. If you hate Christians why not move to Bombay or Delhi or Calcutta and immerse yourself in the culture of Ghandi?

Based on my research I would say you have right.

Yes but "sweat of his brow" is part of the curse. We have been redeemed from the curse. Gal.3:13

Thank God sowing and reaping is still in effect though. I enjoy harvest time!

Ahh so now you paint over the Plymouth witch hunts , hangings for blasphemy, and burning at the stake all in the name of God. How quaint.
By the way, why is it that Christians need a tax free 2 million dollar house of god, when according to your bible the entire outdoors is the house of God. Greed and false Idols perhaps?

You are too classy for that, and you've learned along time ago that Pascals Wager is not a convincing argument.