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Hey Antlers, I'm honest about what I say and I take full responsibility. You've never seen me back down from that, have you, azzhole? And I'm not going to because it is the truth - Islam is the enemy of God and everyone else.
But at every turn you reveal yourself to be at best an ignoramus, at worst a hypocritical liar. I think you lie about what you believe because to admit the truth would make you look bad to the retarded friends that you worship.
Give Haywood your best for me.

Interestingly, what M.Ghandi liked and did not like is not one whit more important - or noteworthy - than what even the lowest type of human likes or dislikes.
The same can be said of you, or me, or anyone...but we do have historical figures and some importance is placed on many of the wise things they said.
It may be the case that what Satan likes/dislikes is much more important than Ghandi's preferences.Maybe to you.

Thou shalt not kill

How many thousands of years has the catholic and protestant Christians violated this commandment in the name of God and Christianity?

Well in my experience we get church and Christianity confused to a large degree. Church as in congregational organizations of various denominations that we generally know is largely a human organization and is fraught with human failings, i.e. big business, petty jealousy etc. Christianity on the other hand is a completely different thing which is a belief that Jesus was the true son of God , that he gave his life on Calvary for the remission of our sins and that he arose on the 3rd day in victory over death. He provided us with tenants of how we should strive to live our lives but in the end given our human frailty to measure up to these tenants it is through his sacrifice and resurrection that ultimately reconciles us with God.

Man! I never saw it that way before...

Lets move away from Christian Western Civilization! It is so horrible! Where do you suggest?

Unlike you, azzhole, I value the truth.
Spoken like a true 'Christian'. You value your own opinion and your own prejudices...those are very different from the truth.
You know how I know I'm on the right path?
"Professing themselves to be wise..."
You should know the rest of it.
I have your disdain.
laffin'
You wish.

I knew another, deacon of his church, that started banging is step-daughter when she was 14. After his wife found out 5 years later she still stayed with him and he stayed with the church.

Good to see that kind of commitment in people.

Mt 5 You have heard that it was said, �You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.� But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. ...
Straight from The Word.
Nope doesn't seem to me to be room for slaying infidels there. Which, it seems to me, is the sin which is most glaring about Islam... Slaying others for their religious beliefs.
Yep. "Kill them all" because they are Muslim is no different than the Muslims wanting to kill all others who aren't Muslim for their own stupid reasons. Slaying others for their religious beliefs is just that...whether you are a Muslim or a self professed 'Christian'. Muslims can justify doing it...and many self professed 'Christians' can justify doing it too. Most are able to justify saying and doing the things they do...regardless of how wrong many of those things are according to Jesus' teachings.
I don't think anyone with any degree of intellectual honesty can claim we haven't fallen miserably short of our Lord's ideal. No doubt.

My only real problem with church is the idea that we need to build million dollar buildings, and then pay some guy(s) a salary to do nothing but tell us things about a book we all have already. I just don't see the point.

So you don't go to hell, you stupid bastard.



Travis

So you don't go to hell, you stupid bastard.




Travis

You re-state my case. And, as for your "some importance is placed", you have absolutely no way to demonstrate that what Ghandi may have said there (context?) is at all wise or important - except, possibly, to you. Wisdom, like beauty, takes shape only in the mind of the person who sees it as such. It could be interesting to run by you a few things that some historical figures have "said" and to hear your assessment of the possible wisdom of their words.