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Fling 123's in a 6.5x284 and find a smith to feed that longer box.

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I think I am going to go .260. To punch it ai or not?

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Originally Posted by Dogshooter
H4350 and Varget both gave erratic results... with several different primers; Rem, CCI, and Win. I did not try the 450s... because I never could find any. Furthermore, any cartridge that requires a single specific component (powder, primer, or bullet) to be reliable... ain't very reliable in my book. The .260 doesn't care what primer I put in it... it shoots the same.

Also, I've run the same powders with the same bullets in the .260... in same/similar weather with no adverse effects... beats me... maybe it's psychosomatic?

Why not just throttle back on the .260/Creed a bit... for less muzzle blast and equal velocity to the x47?


Good advise here, H4350 in particular is hard to ignite. CCI450's and Russian SR Mag primers may cure a lot of ills on Varget also. Trouble is, you have to find 450's.

I watched a friend struggle with small rifle primers with 4064, hang fire city.

R#15 is probably a lot easier to ignite vs H4350 with a small rifle primer.

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Funny how component availability varies around the country. CCI450's are about the only primers readily available where I'm at through this whole mess, I've got several thousand of them. I use them in my 6 BR and I'm having a 6.5x47L built that will get a bunch of them too I'm sure. The 6.5x47 is going to be a lightweight deer rifle on a Borden action, with a M70 I might have chosen the creedmoor. Cold weather down here is anything less than about 50 so I'm not too worried about any potential ignition problems. I decided on the 6.5x47 partially because of the small rifle primers, I fell in love with them after the 6 BR and seeing single digit ES's on the chronograph with them. Also, I'm going to be shooting lightweight TSX's through it and the small case seemed perfect for those to make a light kicker.

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Dogshooter, good point on the supply issue. Not had any issues in LA to date but it seems a few have had problems in extreme temps.

No doubt one can throttle any round back, though I don't see much diff in speeds.

Crow Hunters, sounds like a nice rifle, I have built 3 Alpines, and plan for one more. What will be your build specs? No doubt the TSX/TTSX will be the bomb, in fact you may be shooting the 100s, and yes lower recoil will be had, if shooter longer ranges I would use a 120 BT or 120 TTSX, though my go to has been a 130 AB for 260s and 6.5x55 in the past, and they drop deer quickly, as many 6.5 pills seem to do.

Keith, what rifle and round was your friend plaqued with?

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1) I would go 21-21.5 on a 260
2) If you want a 'Cat' - take a look below...you might like it.

http://www.6mmar.com/65_SuperLR.php


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Originally Posted by 65BR

Crow Hunters, sounds like a nice rifle, I have built 3 Alpines, and plan for one more. What will be your build specs?


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It's an Alpine, just got an e-mail from Jim Borden that the action is ready to ship today. Jon Beanland in OK is going to put it together with a #2 Bartlein 8.5 twist at 22" in a Mcmillan hunter's edge stock with PT&G aluminum Oberndorf bottom metal. I am throating it for the 100 gr. TTSX's, around my hunting area the longest shot is around 300 yds. I can always step to a heavier bullet if I hunt other areas. It should make for a nice relatively light mild mannered deer machine.

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Sounds like a good great build, Seafire has used 100s to good effect on deer, namely Hornady and Noslers, the TTSX at 3,300 should flatten anything you hit at your ranges.

FWIW, light bullets have less "Gain" as you increase capacity. The 260 will do very well, but so will a Creedmoor, and Jon has bulet many that bughole. I would consider factory ammo quality/price/performance and word has it Nosler will be making brass and perhaps Ammo, as Winchester, and I would not be surprised that Lapua follows. Less issue w/case/neck stretch than 260, though not bad like a 243.

Enjoy your new build and post pics of rifle and targets when you can.


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I am a .260 shooter. Being able to use M118LR brass to make .260 brass is a major bonus for me. My lilja tuned Remington is a very consistent .3 moa shooter with 142 SMKs, when I can actually find them....


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Originally Posted by 65BR
Sounds like a good great build, Seafire has used 100s to good effect on deer,



I have hunted for blacktail deer with Seafire in Southern OR 10 years ago, and there are trees. Since then I have started hunting Eastern MT and there are few trees. I am giving up on my 260s and have bought a 6.5-06 reamer this year and a #3 Stainless select match Caliber 6.5x8 Ratchet twist barrel. The mule buck I shot with a 7mmRM in October 2013 was heavy and 477 yards away.


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I had Jon Beanland build my 6.5x47 on a Mdl 7 action.
Rock bbl #4 taper, 8 twist cut to 22.5" HS stock bedded by Jon, Rem trigger tuned by Jon. Scope is a Swaro 6x
It shoots 123 A-Max .2s100yds with H4350.
I have killed several deer with the A-Max.

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"Keith, what rifle and round was your friend plaqued with?

22 Cheatah with the small rifle primer, and the load was 42g of IMR 4064 with a 52g Berger.

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Its hard to pick a looser with the mid velocity 6.5 s. I have the Creedmoor and love it. I've chronoed mine down to-45�F ambient temperature no wind. It gets to the point with H4350 and Varget that its not the powder you need to worry about but rather increased pressure from the barrel constricting from the cold.
RL 15 kindof falls on its face in cold weatherwhich is why I need to work up Varget loads in my 9.3�64 Brenneke. 40 below is caribou hunting weather often times. The Creed has proven to be an awesome round for my use up here. With 3 manufacturers of brass now it is IMO the go to mid vel 6.5 round and its easy to make brass for if things get tight.
But, if someone gave me a 47 Lapua or a 260 I would sure enjoy wearing its barrel out slowly!!!! Like I say, they are all winners

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Keith - 243 parent case? If so, maybe much with such a small bore n SR primer. Sounds like 308 SR/BR brass...Salazar saw no benefit.

Congrats on the nice Mulie Clarke - dumped a WT deer at 400 w/6BR. Alan- aka "GSSP" has taken some real nice animals around 500 with a 47 using 127/129s. Good luck w/build.

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