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Not stupid. This is how airliners fly all the time. They don't expect idiots to shoot them down.

There's absolutely no way Bammy would have arranged for this plane to get zapped in the hope of sparking a war with Russia. For one, Barry doesn't strike me a war monger. More importantly, a war does nothing to further his political agenda here in the US. War tends to unite a country and fuel the pride of nationalism. That won't help open the door for amnesty of illegals and risks the political stronghold that democrats currently have in national elections.

Barry is a globalist shill. He serves at their pleasure. War and disruption always benefits globalist objectives, i.e., to tear down what's left of the old order in order to further consolidate power in the hands of banker technocrats.

Lots of folks here burning powder....but there ain't no lead loaded!!

At this point in history, the Russian government is being more honest with the world that the U.S. government,....and pretty much everybody outside of the United States realizes it.

The mainstream media in this country has been replaced by a propaganda machine.

If you don't look outside of it for your information, you're going to think that up is down and back is forth.

Exactly.

Only an IDIOT, or someone blinded by hatred can't see the facts as to who shot down this airplane.

planes get shot down over war=zones all the time. is this time any different?

war is bad. flying passenger jets over war zones is just idiotic. maybe they were doing it to cut costs of operation? I do not know.

Russia supplied pilots to the North Koreans in that conflict. They also supplied planes, and pilots, not to mention SA2 SAMS and their crews to the North Vietnamese.
Russia supplied material, training, special forces and cover to the 'separatists' in the Georgia conflict.
Russia supplied troops, weapons, intelligence, media and cover for the recent partition of Ukraine and Crimea.
Why is is such a freaking leap to assume that they are not doing the SAME damn thing with regards to the Ukrainian separatist movement?
What does Putin have to gain? Well, territory, all those nuke weapons that stayed in the Ukraine, and it he is known to want to reconstruct the old Soviet Union.
The BUK system that shot down the Malaysian air liner was recently moved into the Ukraine, was manned by Russian troops, and taken back to Russia after it's task was done.
Putin knows that no one in the world will do a damn thing about anything he does.
He has a lot to gain, and very little to lose. Hell, it was the commie effers that taught American progressives about the big lie.

Pretty sure the 'Krainians gave all those back to mommy russia when they went independent.