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You remind me of a friend who suggested after reading The Clan of The Cave Bear that 50,000 years ago that religion was the best they could do.

I suggsted to him there was no 50,000 years ago. Just as I suggest to you that the Sumerians did not come into existance until about 4,000 years ago.

I suggest to you that some people bend science to fit the bible while others bend the bible to fit the science. You fall into the first category. Both are wrong.

DD, I think you are a nice guy . But I know you are wrong.

If you don't mind post a scientific fact accepted by Ph.D scientists of both creationists and evolutionists that show science is bent to fit the Bible to support a belief.

Evololutionists don't bend science to fit the Bible to support a belief. Literal creationists (those who demand that the earth is only 6,000 years old) do bend science to fit the Bible to support a belief.



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I am never wrong because like Mary Poppins I'm practically prefect.

You're laffin'?

Evolutionists bend science to fit their philosophical escape from reality. What scientific evidence do you have, that all Ph.D scientists agree on, showing creationists bend science?

Yep, except for one flaw, which was fatal.

Like many marriages that die from just one little bitty teeny tiny fatal flaw.

It's remarkable that in this day and age, with all of the technological advancements that affect our lives on a daily basis...due to science...that some continue to castigate science as a whole because it threatens their belief system.

antlers,

You didn't say anything in your post. Perhaps you will mention a few Ph.D creationists by name who don't accept gravity of relativity or nuclear fission. Elephant hurling does not work.

I agree. It's really sad. Watch the movie Expelled! No Intelegence Allowed and see it happen. Don't give me the excuse you won't watch it because the reviews said this or that.

Not to start an argument with you , but the witch trials were in one small town, Salem, by a group of cult like people. Religion like many human organizations are flawed.

Christianity is a direct relationship with God, not a series of rules , practices and rituals. I believe in the Almighty and excepted His gift of salvation, but there are many short comings in most religious groups. Humans are all flawed with Greed ,selfishness, lust etc. It is impossible to get a group of even "Good People" together with out basic human flaws(sin) entering the picture. As far as science goes most people believe in gravity, relativity and such. but science has a way of being influenced by who pays for the research being done and the results they expect. Also corrupted by the same things that corrupt "Religion"

The 'theories' of gravity, relativity, or nuclear fission don't threaten their belief system. Evolution does threaten their belief system, as it does yours. Evolution is as much of a 'theory' as is gravity, relativity, or nuclear fission are. It is a scientific fact that the earth is billions of years old, and to blatantly deny facts because they threaten your belief system doesn't lend much credence to 'your' belief system.

Then why do you insist that the earth is only 6,000 years old...?

Probably not god to send this thread off onto evolution again, but I do not agree that "evolution" is proven like "gravity."

There is "speciation" or genetic changes within a species. You know, fruit flies, dogs, horses and the like. When I was young, these types of changes were generally in the filed of "genetics." My view is that there were no examples of "proof" of evolution of one species or genus to another, so to keep the "evolution" game alive, this "genetic speciation" was given a new name: "micro evolution" and then held out as "proof" of evolution. This is bad science.

Gravity can be demonstrated. Evolution, other than "micro-evolution" which is nothing more than genetic variation has not been demonstrated. Not in the lab and not in the fossil record. The fossil record ought to be filled with transitional changes. It is not.

Evolution is a dog that will not hunt. I expect that science will eventually expose this myth.

It is a mystery to me why the majority of scientists will not study this with open eyes. Same goes for global warming. Part of the answer is that a departure from "accepted" mainline beliefs is a career killer and certainly stops government grants.

I am thankful that we do have some bold thinkers in the scientific community that call out media stars like Hawkings and Krauss and successfully challenge "bad science."

The age of the earth is really interesting, but that is another subject.

So, the end of my expounding.

Carry on,

TF

I don't know if evolution is the correct word, but it's amazing the life changes that have occurred on Planet Earth.

remember the dinosours, and their cold-blooded life. then they died off for whatever reason we conjure up. the little furry animals that were warm-blooded inhabited the Earth. did we humans have as a basis the warm, furry animals? I mean, live-bearing, warm-blooded, got a "new brain?"

it sounds like some kind of giant schema was evolving, or developing? the base case was egg laying, cold-blooded & scaly. then warm-blooded, furry, live bearing & a different way of thinking? it's almost like Life is unfolding down here on the Planet.

I know a lot of PH.D's that accept gravity, relativity, nuclear fusion but still have a faith based religion of climate change or global warming. Your statement proves nothing.

Right on!

Right on!