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So you know of the price each item and remember what it's "supposed" to be on a cart full of stuff? You are good.
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Just on that one jelly jar. I stumbled onto that.
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Well, I don't know what these batteries are. I thought they were Interstates, but there is no logo on the battery that is visible. The only thing this has is a sticker that says KELLEHER BATTERY CO, SCRANTON, PA. Anyways, I will probably go with these 49 pounders: Retail*: $137.95 List: $156.95 Mega-Tron Plus Mega-Tron Plus 27 Automotive Battery Six-Year Performance 750 CCA 30 MonthFree Replacement Six YearPerformance Warranty 810 CCA 1000 Amps Yeah, on their website, there is a discrepancy in the CCA listed.
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If you plan on keeping that old Dodge,don't scrimp, buy the best batteries you can find. Will cost in excess of 200 bucks. It's not old, it's well seasoned. BTW, Wally World batteries had a very poor customer rating - something like only 50-60% would recommend it to a friend.
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I've had good service from Trojan and Sears Diehard, over the years. But they eliminated the automotive section of the nearest store, so I might have to search.
Recently bought an Interstate 29NF battery for my gas forklift. They are located not far from me and stocked the special, narrow size required. They trusted me to return the core/exchange without requiring a deposit or payment.
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Costco replaces batteries within the first 3 years with no questions asked...so every 33 months or so, I take it out of the vehicle in the parking lot and have it replaced with a new one, no charge...have one in each of our 5 family vehicles..
If I'm reading that right, you're a thief. Actually not. If the company policy is that way, thats what they've set themselves up for. They get what they asked for. Legal or not it's a bullchit, weasel dick thing to do. I want nothing to do with a shiesty ass thief like that. Total bitch move. +1 ,something seriously wrong w/ anyone that doesn't see that.
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Sears Diehard Platinum will be my next batteries in my rig. They are a re branded Odyssey and run $100 cheaper. http://www.sears.com/diehard-platin...P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2
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This past winter I left the dome light on in my truck and it drained the battery dead. I put it on the charger and got the truck started but the ammeter was reading high like it wouldn't take a full charge. I drove it that way for a couple months and finally took it to O'Reilly to have 'em check it out. They hooked up one the new fangled testers and it showed the battery was bad. It was a 4 year old 72 or 84 month battery I purchased at O'Reilly so it was still under warranty. They didn't have the correct size store brand but they applied the same discount to a a new AC Delco battery. This isn't about batteries per say but the very good customer service that I always get at O'Reilly. I know it sounds like a plug but I buy all my parts there and have always been pleased with their CS. They have my purchases in their computer so I didn't even have to provide a receipt.
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Costco.
I believe ther is only a couple companies making batteries anyway. They just get re-branded and sold in different colors. I'll second that.... Costco replaces batteries within the first 3 years with no questions asked...so every 33 months or so, I take it out of the vehicle in the parking lot and have it replaced with a new one, no charge...have one in each of our 5 family vehicles.. The cost of keeping up deadbeats like this is passed on to consumers by the business.
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"I wanna return this battery."
Is there a problem with it?
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Seafire probably lurks around waiting for the new dumb guy at Costco(?) before he makes his big move and returns a good battery for a new one. Blows my mind that people are so petty. Who in the phizzuck keeps track of 5 different batteries and takes them all in every 3 years just to never have to buy a battery? Seafire must have been trolling, no way is that for real. Unfortunately I bet it is.
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Warranty on a battery is just someone's perceived license to wreck, abuse and lie.
The batteries in the pic are made by Exide with a retailer's label on them.
Get a pair of 600-750 CCA Grp. 34, 24 or 27's (spare yourself of the "1000" crap). Your truck doesn't know or care about any CCA above and beyond what the gear reduction system pulls to turn over. Batteries in this range will also last longer, and Dodge Rams use one of the better starting and charging systems and generally get pretty long battery life.
Dodge diesels in that range also pull the pre-heat off of one battery. Switch batteries after 2-3 years for more life out the pair.
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Costco replaces batteries within the first 3 years with no questions asked...so every 33 months or so, I take it out of the vehicle in the parking lot and have it replaced with a new one, no charge...have one in each of our 5 family vehicles.. The cost of keeping up deadbeats like this is passed on to consumers by the business. Yes, it is. Our ACTUAL defective rate has been at or less than 1% for the 25 years.
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The batteries in the pic are made by Exide with a retailer's label on them.
Get a pair of 600-750 CCA Grp. 34, 24 or 27's (spare yourself of the "1000" crap)
Dodge diesels in that range also pull the pre-heat off of one battery. Switch batteries after 2-3 years for more life out the pair.
Hey Hawk, how can that be if they are in parallel? Thanks
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It draws from both, but not equally.
If the system had the positive connected to one battery and looped and grounded off the other, it would be better. Its powered and grounded off one of the batteries. Yes, both batteries are "available", but power travels the least distance quickest, every time.
If you look at it, its not hooked up the same way the starting cables are, which spread the duties more evenly (I think its the passenger side battery in question).
You can hook up parallel systems in such a fashion one battery gets most of the starting drain, cycling and re-charge. Early heavy truck systems used this and it more often than not destroyed the "front" battery and at times also ruined the second or third (last) battery in the system from never being used, due to the resistance of a "cooked" front battery.
Also, if one cable is longer than the other, that increased distance (and resistance) will also stress the battery with the least distance to the unit to be powered and likewise the charging system, which is what some of those systems do.
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It draws from both, but not equally.
If the system had the positive connected to one battery and looped and grounded off the other, it would be better. Its powered and grounded off one of the batteries. Yes, both batteries are "available", but power travels the least distance quickest, every time.
If you look at it, its not hooked up the same way the starting cables are, which spread the duties more evenly (I think its the passenger side battery in question).
You can hook up parallel systems in such a fashion one battery gets most of the starting drain, cycling and re-charge. Early heavy truck systems used this and it more often than not destroyed the "front" battery and at times also ruined the second or third (last) battery in the system from never being used, due to the resistance of a "cooked" front battery.
Also, if one cable is longer than the other, that increased distance (and resistance) will also stress the battery with the least distance to the unit to be powered and likewise the charging system, which is what some of those systems do Thanks. I have the Battery tender hooked up like this: I would have thought the preheat would have been wired the same.
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When the OEM batteries in my Sierra 2500 HD DuraMax diesel reached five years I decided to replace them before going on a varmint hunt. So, being obsessive about being broken down in nowhere close by nothing, I decided to replace them. Drove down to a commercial battery house and had them replaced with two Odyssey 78-PC1500 batteries made by EnerSys. Now these things aren't cheap at a list of $308.00 a pop, but I did get a discount. So far no more worries about batteries. They have a 12 year warranty, but I bet they have abundant weasel words to get out of that, and a prorate policy that pays $0.39 after ten years.
Bought a new old stock 2008 GMC 1500 with the little 4.8L V-8 for my wife when her Ford F-150 caught fire and burned up on the freeway. Having sat around the lot for two years the battery was weak and would suddenly die overnight. The dealer tested it and said it was fine, but it would crap out anyway. Tired of it all, I popped down to Autozone and picked up a Duralast (don't you love the names they concoct for batteries - I mean who would buy a battery named Shortlife or Sir Dies-a-lot?). For a $144 battery it has worked fine, but the truck is a garage queen that makes shopping trips and occasional runs to a casino.
Then again the Optima Yellow Top batteries I have in an old van and other applications have lasted well.
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It draws from both, but not equally.
If the system had the positive connected to one battery and looped and grounded off the other, it would be better. Its powered and grounded off one of the batteries. Yes, both batteries are "available", but power travels the least distance quickest, every time.
If you look at it, its not hooked up the same way the starting cables are, which spread the duties more evenly (I think its the passenger side battery in question).
You can hook up parallel systems in such a fashion one battery gets most of the starting drain, cycling and re-charge. Early heavy truck systems used this and it more often than not destroyed the "front" battery and at times also ruined the second or third (last) battery in the system from never being used, due to the resistance of a "cooked" front battery.
Also, if one cable is longer than the other, that increased distance (and resistance) will also stress the battery with the least distance to the unit to be powered and likewise the charging system, which is what some of those systems do Thanks. I have the Battery tender hooked up like this: I would have thought the preheat would have been wired the same. That's the correct way. The Odyssey batteries are also a great product. Eventually, everything will be a sealed AGM; but AGM isn't always the answer, and not all are built even close to the Odyssey product. The oldest pair of batteries I have seen were 22 years old in an older AC tractor. Seen others go in the 18-20 range.
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