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Rl-15 44.5gr under a 120gr NBT or TTSX. what legth barrel was that load worked up for? 18.5" Model Seven But that's a half inch longer.
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Best hope BigStick don't stumble on this thread... things will get interesting to say the least.
tedthorn, you can't find a manual that shows loads for different barrel lengths?
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RL15&17 for me. 4064 has been good also it does not meter as smooth for me.
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The 7-08 is such a well mannered cartridge that a whole bunch of medium powders work well, and I would would be hard put to say that any one is head and shoulders superior to all the rest. Doing so would arrogantly ignore both the variation between rifles and between lots of the same powder.
3031 is about as fast as I would go, and the 4350s as slow. I shot R12 to great effect, when it was around, R15 is great, R17 I have not tried, R19 is meh. 4895, 4320, are fine. H414/WW760 was my standby for years, although it is dirty. Varget is hard to beat at the lighter end. AA3100 is too slow except with about 175 gr. bullets. N160 works well with heavier bullets, but hard to find. Lots of others I could list, if my memory was better.
With finding powders being a hit or miss proposition in recent years, shooting a cartridge that will work just fine on a wide range of powders is not a bad thing at all.
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Best hope BigStick don't stumble on this thread... things will get interesting to say the least.
tedthorn, you can't find a manual that shows loads for different barrel lengths? The barrel length in question doesn't matter. Standard powders for 22" to 24" barrels work the same at 18".
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Missing the boat not trying out some Big Game, with mag primers, assuming you can find any.
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I should have used a smiley face...
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Missing the boat not trying out some Big Game, with mag primers, assuming you can find any. That's about like .22RF, Unobtanium in places other than Montana..
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Best hope BigStick don't stumble on this thread... things will get interesting to say the least.
tedthorn, you can't find a manual that shows loads for different barrel lengths? Sure can......kinda like listening to the professionals here
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Tough to beat RL15. Varget would no doubt be a great choice but I never really needed to try it
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Was thinking a T/C load manual for a Encore handgun with the 15" barrel.
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You can run QL if you want, but it ain't the same as shooting.
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You can run QL if you want, but it ain't the same as shooting. It aint?
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Was thinking a T/C load manual for a Encore handgun with the 15" barrel. Yep 15" for the Nosler 7-08 handgun Faster powders for sure in these listings
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Best hope BigStick don't stumble on this thread... things will get interesting to say the least. I like Stick.....he knows his stuff for sure.... this I have no doubt Heck....my wife even likes him.....they flirted with each other a week or two ago on here somewhere
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Looking at my nosler number four manual under the handgun loads it shows the same powders for the 14" barrel as for the 26" barrel, just slower velocity. It looks like n150 and rl15 are the winners for speed at 2684 fps. H4895 and imr4064 were the next two for speed at just over 2600fps. I would guess 4 more inches would just make any of these better. Big game and 748 are 2 I would look at as well
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Hodgdon has pistol and rifle 7mm08 data. No big reshuffling of what powders perform, and what little change there is could easily be from traits of the two barrels other than their lengths.
I haven't done it with the 7mm08, but I have shot a lot of different 308's over a chrono. Barrel lengths have been from 27" down to 16". Guess what? Varget outruns 3031 and H322 over the full spectrum of lengths and with various bullets.
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In summary...stop focusing on your short tube and start listening to the advice being given for the cartridge and bullets you listed.
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In summary it's a discussion.....I'm not focusing on anything
Start listening?
Funny.....really funny
It's not nearly as complicated as the 4 pages dictate....but thanks for taking the time to line me out
Some here I provoked into thought......
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