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as for the 'just put a shot into the skull', same thing goes.....gotta know how/where.... .22 lr is MORE than enuff


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They ended up all over, including deflecting under the hide and traveling down the neck and into the shoulder. Some exited. MV was about 2600. I wasn't there, but I saw bullets he collected, and listened to his recounting of the story a few times. It was a rodeo, and all the clowns had sad faces. The bullets looked pretty good, the 3 that he found that ended up at the shoulder. Like magazine ads.

I've got a matching contender: Bullberry 14", but mine is chambered in 218 Bee. Since you have experience with the 53 tsx, do you think I could stabilize them well at 26-2700 with a 1:14, and would the 53tsx be worthwhile to attempt shots on deer to, say, 125yds? With that slow a MV?

I wouldn't.... but outta the 223 1-9, they shine

I keep on trying to turn that gun into a BG gun, for some damn reason or other. I have several that work just fine, and are not marginal in caliber, or power level.

There are those here that are trying to turn pistol caliber carbines into elk rifles, too. Me? no way...They say timber/brush gun, but WTF happens when the only critters seen are at 250? I'll stick with the 260/243/30-30 WAY before I saddle myself with a 44 maggie......

I plan to carry my carbine, or if I get it settled, my 10" Contender in 44, but only if I will be hunting timber , with no chance for longer shots. Where I hunt, elk are more likely seen at 450 than 150, and we don't see many the last few years. Like you, I can't afford to saddle myself with a shorter range gun.

Was thinking 44 in a revolver but what's wrong with a bowhunter's "approach" even with the Trapper which does not extend the 44 mag that much further, eh?

I, for one, refuse to only take lung shots at arrow distance. And then have to stop and eat a sammich and take a nap, while waiting for them to die......grin

Listen,..A good ham on rye, a little taste of some amber curmudgeon medicine, then a nap in the sun over by the quaky grove...

You must not be old enough yet.

Nah, I want to start packing meat NOW. Not after dark.....I hate it when my beauty sleep suffers on account of having to let them bleed out.

From the looks of things, you been packing out a lot after dark lately.....

Took a black bear (46yrd) and a mulie (60yrd) with 300gr XTP from my ruger 77/44. Both were broadside and complete pass throughs. Animals both went less the 30yrds and piled up. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a moose or elk with this round inside 100yrds.

Since this thread is about carbines in 44 mag for elk, I wanted to make a few points, in particular since the aspect of range handicapping has come up.

If you look at heavy bullets out of a carbine from the perspective that it isn't the bullet's energy or velocity that do the damage, but rather, it is the size and weight of the bullet that makes a good hole, then the range limitation isn't so much of a limitation. My carbine with 300gr flatnose bullets at 1500-1600 will do a fine job on elk out to 300yds. There are many guys who hunt with heavy non-expanding bullets in handguns at modest velocities and get their elk every year. If I use their velocity benchmark, said 300 yds is a gimme.

Second point: my carbine is light and shoulders like lightning, with sights perfectly aligned. Like a good shotgun, but lighter. I can snap shoot at game, and have done it enough to know it. It is far less cumbersome than my 'big gun'. Elk in the timber, when I've seen them, are either moving or getting ready to do so. Snap offhand shots at ranges from 40-100yds are going to be required. The carbine excels at this.

So the carbine is not the handicap that many are making it out to be. If you think so, take this challenge: shoot yours off a bench at, say 200 until you know where it is hitting, then try to hit a paper plate. I can. I shoot paper plates offhand to past 150 when getting ready to hunt. How many guys say that elk are usually shot from 100-200yds? I wanted to give this different perspective. A 44 mag carbine is not a 100yd gun.

Thank you for the reply:)

Thinking a recipe of hard cast is a better bet then the hp.

+1

I have a few loaded hot in this grain 300 XTP.

I carry a 30-06 carbine. It has a 18 inch barrel. But even with the short barrel it is good for 300-400 yards. A 44 magnum will limit your shots to 100 - 125 yards. You can probably shot a little farther but it may not bring the elk down right away. You could end up with a tracking job from he$$.

Until you see the work that heavy, fat bullets at moderate speed can do, maybe it is best not to comment on how well and how far they work.

In a carbine, it is fairly easy to get a 300gr cast WFN to 1500fps. When you run the charts, and look at the fact that a MPBR shot is roughly 150 yds, and that at 200 you are still on hair on an elk, it is hard to justify, at least in my mind, limiting shots to such short ranges. YMMV, but the numbers won't.