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I put this query in hunting optics, but over a four day period only one reply so thought I would see here if anyone is using these, and what your impressions have been so far. I have a new pair coming to me under Bushnell Warranty service as the old Fusion 1600's quit working, twice, Same problem both times.
Thanks in advance for the input, opinions, thoughts, observations and reports!
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Had a guy show up with a pair last season and I wasn't impressed. IMO You'd be better off with a good, quality pair of binoculars and a seperate rangefinder
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I have heard of multiple accounts of them breaking so maybe there is a problem with them in general.
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Kind of what I am thinking, but hoping against hope that the newer generation and version has some of these bugs worked out.
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Kind of what I am thinking, but hoping against hope that the newer generation and version has some of these bugs worked out. It looks like they sell for between $999 and $1299 new. If they are sending you a brand new pair I would sell those and then look at the meopta meostars and a separate rangefinder. To me the most important thing I carry are my binoculars and the novelty of having a good rangefinder in an average set of optics just doesn't work. I would prefer to have an average rangefinder and an excellent pair of binoculars. Just my .02
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For a mere $3450 (plus s&h) you can get a pair of Steiners......
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Kind of what I am thinking, but hoping against hope that the newer generation and version has some of these bugs worked out. It looks like they sell for between $999 and $1299 new. If they are sending you a brand new pair I would sell those and then look at the meopta meostars and a separate rangefinder. To me the most important thing I carry are my binoculars and the novelty of having a good rangefinder in an average set of optics just doesn't work. I would prefer to have an average rangefinder and an excellent pair of binoculars. Just my .02 That advice has been proffered before, and rejected.
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It looks like they sell for between $999 and $1299 new. If they are sending you a brand new pair I would sell those and then look at the meopta meostars and a separate rangefinder. To me the most important thing I carry are my binoculars and the novelty of having a good rangefinder in an average set of optics just doesn't work. I would prefer to have an average rangefinder and an excellent pair of binoculars. Just my .02
I couldn't agree more. Excellent advice IMO.
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I like my 10x42 One Mile's a lot for what I use them for, but they don't have grade A glass.
For varmint hunting, shooting comps, and less bino intensive hunting I really like using one unit and I like how potent the rangefinder is. Mine have worked flawlessly.
For my mule deer hunting where I can spend hours looking through bino's, I bring my Ultravids and a CRF.
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Is there a second generation? Anyway I had the first Fusions to come out, a 10x42 I believe. The LRF was quite good; as good it seemed to distance as my Leica Geovids (15x56).
But the glass! Though mine didn't break, it was the glass I couldn't abide. It had fairly good resolution but a heavy blue-green tint to it for my eyes (but my eyes have had the back of others too). Because of that, I didn't have them long enough to use them a lot under hunting conditions.
So, IMO, depending on your optics obsessive compulsiveness, and your budget, they are just fine! Or you get the Leica-Swarovski-Zeiss "fusion" which IMO is the way to go in either an "8" or "10" power. Or, simply, a good glass and separate LRF.
If the glass has been improved, well,..
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George,
The One Miles don't have the blue-green tint that the 1600's displayed. They are indeed a second generation. They're a long ways from my Leica's optically still!
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George,
The One Miles don't have the blue-green tint that the 1600's displayed. They are indeed a second generation. They're a long ways from my Leica's optically still! My brand new 1 Mile Fusions just came, and as you have stated they do not have the blue/green tint to them like my 1600's did, either. In casual "testing" here in my neihborhood, the glass seems to be pretty good, I plan to take them with me to our deer hunting area on Tuesday and give them some field use where I actually hunt. Jury is still out as to whether I keep them or sell them. Keep is in the lead because I do not have the bucks to upgrade, and when a big game animal is on the move, there is often (IME) not time enough to use a binoc and then grab and use the rangefinder. Where others hunt this may not be the case, but there is enough hunting pressure on deer out here that oft times when I have seen a good buck he is already 350 or more yards out and trotting AWAY. Getting the range RIGHT NOW and getting a shot can men a shot within my makeable range vs not or too far for me to feel comfortable with a try. Sitting and watching for a bear where I hunt, you only have Mr. Bear (who will also be moving at a good clip, just because that is what bears DO when travelling form one foood source to another) in a small opening through the trees and shrubs for a very brief time so getting a good look and getting a range on him has to also be done very quickly. I have NO doubt that having a binoc/LRF combo has made the difference for me on a couple of animal's I have killed in recent years. Others hunting areas or style may not be so time critical, and two sets of optics might work just fine. More testing of this unit and reports, is needed. Thank you for the reports given so far! MARK
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My BIL had not one, but TWO (Fusion 1 Mile). I fondled and used them on my ranch to form a first hand opinion. I stand by my earlier statement in the Optics portion of the Forum that they're indeed a sheit sandwich. Yellow tinted glass, and laser wasn't accurate (compared against both my Leica HD-B and Zeiss PRF). Build QC was sheit. My BIL took the first one back to Cabela's (where purchased) and got the second one. Same issues with the second Bushnell. In addition, interesting enough, the glue Jim speaks of was evident in my BIL's second unit. Not only was there "oozed glue", but the diopter didn't work. He learned his lesson and is now sporting a Zeiss 8x26 PRF Take another bite Mark!
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George,
The One Miles don't have the blue-green tint that the 1600's displayed. They are indeed a second generation. They're a long ways from my Leica's optically still! Thanks. I apologize for posting non-pertinent information then.
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Not binoculars but check Newcon-Optik LRM 2200si range finder. 7X monocular
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when a big game animal is on the move, there is often (IME) not time enough to use a binoc and then grab and use the rangefinder. Where others hunt this may not be the case, but there is enough hunting pressure on deer out here that oft times when I have seen a good buck he is already 350 or more yards out and trotting AWAY. Getting the range RIGHT NOW and getting a shot can men a shot within my makeable range vs not or too far for me to feel comfortable with a try.
Sitting and watching for a bear where I hunt, you only have Mr. Bear (who will also be moving at a good clip, just because that is what bears DO when travelling form one foood source to another) in a small opening through the trees and shrubs for a very brief time so getting a good look and getting a range on him has to also be done very quickly. MARK
I see you're still talking about taking long shots at moving game. I guess shooting that bear in the azz didn't cure you. For a Christian, you don't have a lot of respect for God's creatures. Of course, from your business dealings, you don't have a lot of respect for people, either.
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