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Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. #9166002 09/09/14
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807 Savage_99 OP Campfire Outfitter
OP Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	Last season my buddy and I were deer hunting on some farm land. He and my late dad have hunted there in S. VT for half a century with me. I was near the dirt road that serves the area and a gentleman came out of the woods and greeted me. He made a good appearance, offered his hand to shake and identified himself as the owner of the farm and it's land. This is nice land. He saw my hunting outfit and rifle and said he wanted hunting done there. He wanted the deer taken so that they would not perish in the rough winter. His land is not posted.

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Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9166201 09/09/14
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coyote268 Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,859 Lakeport, CA	That wouldn't happen in California or Montana.

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. coyote268 #9166772 09/10/14
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OP Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	Back when the first Ruger #1A's came out I had one on order and hunted on that land with it. I was in the woods there waiting for a buck to show. I was admiring my rifle and I opened it's falling block action and took my handloaded cartridge out. When the 7mm RM was in my hand a buck stepped out of the deep woods and was looking at me! I slowly put it in the chamber, closed the action and shot him!

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9166798 09/10/14
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Likes: 1 Southwestern Montucky	If it was a 7 mag�it would have been a #1-S� "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. ingwe #9166854 09/10/14
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BrandonGleason Campfire Regular B Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 503 Shelton, CT	Beautiful photo of that property. Looks like it was taken from a notably elevated position? Brandon Gleason

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Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. ingwe #9166889 09/10/14
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OP Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	Thank you Ingwe for the information. That Ruger #1 is not marked as to what model it is. When I ordered it back then I ordered a #1A 30-06. When it came it was a 1A in 7mm RM with a 22" bbl! The dealer told me to take it or leave it as they were back ordered then and everybody wanted one. So I kept it. It shot well and as the years went by the throat got worn and I wrote Ruger to rebarrel it. They said ok and I brought the rifle up there. I was friendly with Ruger and was buying castings from them. They wrote back that they did not have any more 1A 7mm RM barrels but would supply another chambering. So I ordered a 30-06 which is what I wanted in the first place! I just looked at the rifle with it's new 30-06 bbl. and the old take off 7mm RM barrel they returned and there is no markings on them if they are 1A's or 1S. All guns should be locked up when not in use!

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9167024 09/10/14
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Boise Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,220 Rapid City, SD, US	If I understand your post correctly, you were knowingly hunting on private land and did not know the owner. I can only assume you received trespass permission second hand. In Idaho we weren't required to have permission to trespass on non-posted not cultivated land but I learned landowners appreciated a visit. I don't recall ever meeting a landowner that didn't want to know exactly who was on his land. I'm not calling you out or anything, just sharing my point of view. Obviously your behavior was acceptable to the landowner. The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Boise #9167479 09/10/14
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Blacktailer Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 4,001 Cave Creek, AZ	Originally Posted by Boise If I understand your post correctly, you were knowingly hunting on private land and did not know the owner. I can only assume you received trespass permission second hand. In Idaho we weren't required to have permission to trespass on non-posted not cultivated land but I learned landowners appreciated a visit. I don't recall ever meeting a landowner that didn't want to know exactly who was on his land. I'm not calling you out or anything, just sharing my point of view. Obviously your behavior was acceptable to the landowner. In California if you are hunting on someone else's property, you are supposed to have written permission from the landowner in you possession or you are subject to arrest for trespass. The customs must be different back there. I am continually astounded at how quickly people make up their minds on little evidence or none at all. Jack O'Connor

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Blacktailer #9167490 09/10/14
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JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,251 Likes: 6 W. Texas	In Texas you're liable to get your zzzz shot off by the landowner, before the questions start. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9168869 09/10/14
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger
tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good!	Originally Posted by Savage_99 Thank you Ingwe for the information. That Ruger #1 is not marked as to what model it is. When I ordered it back then I ordered a #1A 30-06. When it came it was a 1A in 7mm RM with a 22" bbl! The dealer told me to take it or leave it as they were back ordered then and everybody wanted one. So I kept it. It shot well and as the years went by the throat got worn and I wrote Ruger to rebarrel it. They said ok and I brought the rifle up there. I was friendly with Ruger and was buying castings from them. They wrote back that they did not have any more 1A 7mm RM barrels but would supply another chambering. So I ordered a 30-06 which is what I wanted in the first place! I just looked at the rifle with it's new 30-06 bbl. and the old take off 7mm RM barrel they returned and there is no markings on them if they are 1A's or 1S. Actually, his rifle is an early one from the late 60's or early 70's, judging by the checkering on the buttstock. Ruger didn't standardize on the current models until later. According to ElNumeroUno's site, it would have been a model AHS, and could have been a 7mm Rem mag. http://www.classicsportingarms.com/ruger-collecting/ruger-no-1-rarity-tables/ The bad news is, they made less than 50 of them like that, and it would be worth a lot more with the original barrel... "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

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Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. tex_n_cal #9169044 09/10/14
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bubbajay Campfire Regular B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,224 Moorhead, MN	if i am reading it right.......they returned the 7mm barrel to him.

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. bubbajay #9169410 09/11/14
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OP Savage_99 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 14,807	Yes Ruger returned the worn 7mm RM bbl. to me. They did tear off the front sight and rear base however so there are blind holes in the bbl. there. I don't care about what it's "worth" in terms of collecting guessing. It's worth more to me now as it's got a good barrel and also the chamber I want.

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9171529 09/11/14
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CWD Campfire Member C Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 223 Maine	I know it sounds crazy, but in VT, NH and Maine you do NOT need written permission to hunt land that is not posted. Of course asking permission is always appreciated. I know it's hard to believe.... RLTW NRA Benefactor Member

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. CWD #9171549 09/11/14
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bearstalker Campfire Outfitter B Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 9,921 Alaska	Originally Posted by CWD I know it sounds crazy, but in VT, NH and Maine you do NOT need written permission to hunt land that is not posted. Of course asking permission is always appreciated. I know it's hard to believe.... Same thing in Alaska. You got to post it if you want no one on the property.

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. bearstalker #9173004 09/12/14
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Pappy348 Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28,805 Likes: 2 West of the Blue Ridge	In WV, the land has to be posted or fenced, but you still need to leave if asked. Still, unlike the good old days, I would never enter private property without permission. It's just looking for trouble. As for the 22" 7RM Number 1, my brother had one just like it, except no sights. He sold it to me, but I didn't keep it long, like the big dummy I am. In dim light, that puppy had a muzzle flash like a Saturn V! Gorgeous wood too. What fresh Hell is this?

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9174424 09/13/14
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shaman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,328 Greater Browningsville, KY	It's funny, but my reaction was the same as some of the other folks here. In both Ohio and Kentucky you have to have permission of the landowner prior to hunting, otherwise you can get arrested for poaching. In Ohio, the permission has to be written, and carried on the person. In KY, it can be written or verbal. I took the extra step of specifying in my posted classified in the local paper that it had to be in writing. Everybody's has a different way of dealing with things. Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries Lighthearted Confessions of a Cervid Serial Killer

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Savage_99 #9174609 09/13/14
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rem141r Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 14,408	i had permission to hunt property for 30+ years. all it took was a few jerks to piss off the owner and he closed it all and leased it to an even bigger jerk. my hunting heritage went away and never came back. i drive past it all the time with my boys on our way to the overcrowded public ground. My diploma is a DD214

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. rem141r #9174699 09/13/14
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battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,811 outside the burgh	Pa has public Game Lands and State Forests within an easy drive of everyone. Get back in a little and overcrowding goes away. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Talk with a gentleman when out hunting. Boise #9178512 09/14/14
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Dogballs Campfire Regular D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 639 Northern Vermont	Originally Posted by Boise If I understand your post correctly, you were knowingly hunting on private land and did not know the owner. I can only assume you received trespass permission second hand. In Idaho we weren't required to have permission to trespass on non-posted not cultivated land but I learned landowners appreciated a visit. I don't recall ever meeting a landowner that didn't want to know exactly who was on his land. I'm not calling you out or anything, just sharing my point of view. Obviously your behavior was acceptable to the landowner. In Vermont you can hunt anywhere you like as long as the land isn't legally posted. "Let me say it as simply as I can: transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency."

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